Date: Sat, 19 Sep 2015 16:32:48 +0300 From: Slawa Olhovchenkov <slw@zxy.spb.ru> To: Polytropon <freebsd@edvax.de> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: HTTPS on freebsd.org, git, reproducible builds Message-ID: <20150919133248.GB21849@zxy.spb.ru> In-Reply-To: <20150919151517.739ab70a.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <CAD2Ti2_YNkNi2b=PzFCwu3PVaP8hOzADys3=-k0AqvsDRhJpzA@mail.gmail.com> <86vbb7dhaa.fsf@nine.des.no> <20150918134804.GU3158@zxy.spb.ru> <86oagzwf8j.fsf@nine.des.no> <20150919125023.GA21849@zxy.spb.ru> <20150919151517.739ab70a.freebsd@edvax.de>
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On Sat, Sep 19, 2015 at 03:15:17PM +0200, Polytropon wrote:
> On Sat, 19 Sep 2015 15:50:23 +0300, Slawa Olhovchenkov wrote:
> > On Sat, Sep 19, 2015 at 12:10:36AM +0200, Dag-Erling Smorgrav wrote:
> >
> > > Slawa Olhovchenkov <slw@zxy.spb.ru> writes:
> > > > freebsd-update builds is inreproducible by the freebsd-update-server bug[s].
> > >
> > > freebsd-update will most likely be gone in 11.
> >
> > What is planed for replacement?
>
> As far as I could understand, pkg will deal with the components
> comprising the OS in the same manner as it does for the ports
> collection. So the kernel, the userland, the sources and so on
> will "become packages" for pkg to install or upgrade. This is
> a similar approach to common package management on Linux, except
> that Linux (as a term to summarize all the many distributions)
> doesn't have an OS ("the base OS") per se.
This is very bad.
> You can already see this kind of development: The documentation
> has become a package, and the package manager itself is a
> package (separated from the OS, which only contains a bootstrap
> loader for the real program). Finally, the installation process
> could become a task of "pkg install", instead of "tar xf". And
> a unification of the infrastructures could lead to additional
> benefits (only _one_ system for both components - OS and ports).
I am have many troubles with this way in Linux.
Kernel and userland versions mismatch.
glibc version incompatible with rpm.
pkunzip.zip problem.
And etc.
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