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Date:      Fri, 25 Aug 2017 20:38:20 +0200
From:      Polytropon <freebsd@edvax.de>
To:        Alejandro Imass <aimass@yabarana.com>
Cc:        FreeBSD Questions <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: [OT] two birds with one stone :)
Message-ID:  <20170825203820.34094965.freebsd@edvax.de>
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On Fri, 25 Aug 2017 10:23:36 -0400, Alejandro Imass wrote:
> I am amazed at how large companies have blindly bought into Amazon AWS
> and don't even realize how outrageously expensive it becomes when you
> actually do scale.

It isn't obvious in regards of management and decision skills,
and it doesn't matter in the _current_ quarter. Additionally,
paying qualified and motivated system operations personnel
(like system administrators or programmers) costs the "wrong"
kind of money. That's why it matters what you spend money on.
Expensive stuff "as a service" - material costs, they send us
an invoice, and we can deduct it from our taxes, or we simply
raise our prices and let the stupid consumer pay the price.
Employees - personnel costs, no no, that just pollutes our
balance and lets us look as if we can't deal with money. And
we are a growth-oriented startup with $500M investment, so
it doesn't really matter...

That's why paying money for expensive services that do not
scale is "money well spent". :-)



> Orders of magnitude higher than the cost and risk
> of real sysadmins and real hardware.

But that forces a company to deal with real assets which do
physically exist, and it forces them to recognize their
social responsibilities regarding their workforce.



> Most applications are being
> developed around RDS, SQS and all the other packaged services that AWS
> offers, and certified AWS TechOps dudes are becoming evermore stupid
> Amazon drones....  which is getting these companies in a vendor lock
> situation that I hadn't seen since the 80's.

Correct! This creates a new kind of "certified consultants" who
firstly make the big bucks, but then, the price declines until
they become a cheap commodity, but there is no way back.



> It's like Microsoft all
> over again but now using the very same Open Source technology that we
> helped build all these years.

But it comes with lots of marketing-speak BS and green traffic
lights, so it must be the only way to go, right? ;-)



> Scary stuff when you see how much of the Internet is on AWS....

And AWS failures make you actually _realize_ this scary tendency...



-- 
Polytropon
Magdeburg, Germany
Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0
Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ...



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