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Date:      Wed, 6 Dec 2017 06:17:18 -0800
From:      Cy Schubert <Cy.Schubert@komquats.com>
To:        Steve Clement <steve@localhost.lu>,  Dewayne Geraghty <dewayne.geraghty@heuristicsystems.com.au>
Cc:        "freebsd-security@freebsd.org" <freebsd-security@freebsd.org>
Subject:   RE: http subversion URLs should be discontinued in favor of https URLs
Message-ID:  <20171206141716.1ECC3110@spqr.komquats.com>

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No worries, telnet and ftp are in my sights.

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Cy Schubert
<Cy.Schubert@cschubert.com> or <cy@freebsd.org>
The need of the many outweighs the greed of the few.
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-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Clement
Sent: 06/12/2017 03:29
To: Dewayne Geraghty
Cc: freebsd-security@freebsd.org
Subject: Re: http subversion URLs should be discontinued in favor of https =
URLs

* On Wed, Dec 06, 2017 at 08:55:00AM +1100, Dewayne Geraghty <dewayne.gerag=
hty@heuristicsystems.com.au> wrote:
> On 6/12/2017 8:13 AM, Yuri wrote:
> > On 12/05/17 13:04, Eugene Grosbein wrote:
> >> It is illusion that https is more secure than unencrypted http in a
> >> sense of MITM
> >> just because of encryption, it is not.
> >
> >

Dear all,

Is it really wise suggesting that http is not that bad?

While you are at it, perhaps reviving telnet is a good idea. (Yes it is a
bad comparison)

If your answer is to just not use it, good luck for the past.

> It can be illusory. =C2=A0 My last job was as Sec Mgr for a large bank.=
=C2=A0 They
> disabled cert checking on client devices, placed a wildcard cert at the
> internet boundary and captured all https unencrypted.=C2=A0 An alternativ=
e
> approach to advocate is dnssec.=C2=A0 :)

And you just let this happen under your watch?

> You also need to ensure integrity, to ensure that the numbers are
> flipped in transit...=C2=A0 ;)

As a security person you do have responsibilities. Of course if you (as a
security person) gave up on all that, you might as well go to the beach and
use your CB to talk to your Dr.

I cannot believe these attitudes, can perhaps other people weigh-in,
especially to the issue at hand?

Looking forward to the first person brining up performance issues, in
end-of-2017=E2=80=A6

Sincerely yours,

Steve



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