Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2019 18:39:52 +0200 From: Polytropon <freebsd@edvax.de> To: Per Hedeland <per@hedeland.org> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Where is the info viewer? Message-ID: <20190912183952.c4873f5b.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <218ac7d6-6098-0310-93a6-9fc77d578027@hedeland.org> References: <20190910070033.GA29721@admin.sibptus.ru> <alpine.BSF.2.20.1909102030500.59741@fledge.watson.org> <20190911041439.9ba45e18.freebsd@edvax.de> <10971217-3072-cfee-785d-3748e9879a2f@gmail.com> <20190911110708.95a9b3f8.freebsd@edvax.de> <44ftl3hrdf.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> <20190911160926.5b3549c3.freebsd@edvax.de> <alpine.BSF.2.20.1909111123160.59741@fledge.watson.org> <73a70d38-ff87-54b0-89ef-2aae257b03df@hedeland.org> <20190912025852.57f64546.freebsd@edvax.de> <218ac7d6-6098-0310-93a6-9fc77d578027@hedeland.org>
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On Thu, 12 Sep 2019 14:39:42 +0200, Per Hedeland wrote: > On 2019-09-12 02:58, Polytropon wrote: > > On Wed, 11 Sep 2019 18:47:17 +0200, Per Hedeland wrote: > >> But, but... - surely there are no info files in base? They live in > >> /usr/local/share/info, which should be enough of an indication, but > >> just to make sure: > >> > >> $ ls /usr/share/info > >> ls: /usr/share/info: No such file or directory > >> $ ls /usr/local/share/info | wc -l > >> 78 > >> $ pkg which /usr/local/share/info/* | grep 'installed by package' | wc -l > >> 77 > >> $ pkg which /usr/local/share/info/* | grep -v 'installed by package' > >> /usr/local/share/info/dir was not found in the database > >> $ cat /usr/local/share/info/dir > >> Produced by: indexinfo 0.3.1. > >> > >> File: dir, Node: Top This is the top of the INFO tree > >> ... > > > > I think you have obtained this from a current FreeBSD version. > > Correct, sorry for not mentioning that - it was 12.0-RELEASE (i.e. > indeed current but not CURRENT:-). I now also checked 10.3-RELEASE - > had ~20 files in /usr/share/info and not even the directory > /usr/local/share/info, but quite a few files in /usr/local/info - and > 11.1-RELEASE - had neither /usr/share/info nor /usr/local/share/info, > but many files in /usr/local/info, so it seems no info files in base > there either - and I wouldn't really call 11.1-RELEASE "current"... You can easily differentiate: /usr/share/info is (correct: was) created by the OS and populated with info files corresponding to GNU software components. /usr/local/info and /usr/local/share/info (correct location) are created as needed by a port, and populated by whatever info files that port will install. On a fresh FreeBSD install, they typically do not exist; no file in /etc/mtree does contain an entry for a directory named "info" in the /usr/local subtree (whereas on older FreeBSD versions, those _were_ created as empty directories when the OS was installed). > > Older versions still had *.info.gz files in /usr/share/info, > > and I may construct the following assumption: Lots of info-based > > documentation was part of GCC, and as this has been obsoleted by > > CLang/LLVM (is that the correct spelling?), the GCC info files > > have been removed. Other GNU-based tools also were rewritten for > > FreeBSD, and removed, so _if_ there are no more info files in the > > base system, the removal of the corresponding reader program is > > understandable. > > Yes, per above the info files in base were gone already in > 11.1-RELEASE (maybe even in 11.0-RELEASE) - I don't have a later 11.x > to check, but I think it's unlikely that any of those have added info > files in base. Thanks for verifying this and adding a version number. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ...
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