Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2020 05:24:06 +0000 From: Alexey Dokuchaev <danfe@freebsd.org> To: Niclas Zeising <zeising@freebsd.org> Cc: x11@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Ars Technica article Message-ID: <20200413052406.GA90880@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <536A0D50-4119-4C28-9202-28622152B203@freebsd.org> References: <3049612.rJTJeGpjCJ@saskatoon.bionicmutton.org> <20200410001102.GB23747@lonesome.com> <4e3bf6be-aecf-7c62-df98-1cc4b01b8db9@gmail.com> <qjPID4gTE2NvAVjSZKmSBSLDOK7gxaJbnPw46O71vKnmV0b7uoMZ7xTv3RI30bRpPqphZAXTHd3r3RYSQ8UGaRVO45afo-EcYB34INKVAM8=@protonmail.ch> <43f83193-e495-2bf2-f85d-91aa0b36c1a0@gmail.com> <slUQwwm1giIIEaqmUKBQ1G5UIlVSvzfWkk3vZm-dBYNRA-wng7tDluv_Es3eOiaNYDE9yNtKFfd-2iOEozSGK1JNIjFbqCXV1a1sgkQ1sHE=@protonmail.ch> <0e205fe8-fbc6-5d91-99b0-1bd4870b8a5d@gmail.com> <CAGwOe2ZHZFhVwSvjk7JDe0szY-1oZH_HvDhMqp-zXXV9%2BePtHg@mail.gmail.com> <d263368c-5dcc-61c2-9c77-3d59c5493182@gmail.com> <536A0D50-4119-4C28-9202-28622152B203@freebsd.org>
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On Sat, Apr 11, 2020 at 12:43:00AM +0000, Niclas Zeising wrote:
> ...
> Short answer, because I'm on my phone... You shouldn't use drm-legacy-
> kmod, it is on life support.
Well, that's funny, considering that for many people, it is the only
DRM port that actually works.
> The drm-legacy-kmod radeonkms.ko module requires xf86-video-ati-legacy
> to work in menu cases,
menu == many? Where is this requirement documented? Many people had
reported having to use `graphics/drm-legacy-kmod' ('cause, well, nothing
else works) and radeonkms.ko together with `x11-drivers/xf86-video-ati',
particularly, in PR 237642* about the invisible mouse pointer.
> and that has been broken since the update of xorg-server, with no one
> stepping up to test my patches for it.
Wrong: both pfg@ and me did test those patches, as well as other people
who reported it on -x11@ list, with sad results unfortunately. :-(
> I'm using modesetting across three different Intel GPUs without seeing
> any issues.
Yes, lots of people apparently are happier with X11 server's built-in
"modesetting" driver rather than traditional xf86-video-*, but doesn't
modesetting drivers lack some/any 3D acceleration? I don't see this
documented on wiki.freebsd.org/Graphics (and modesetting driver is only
mentioned in the Intel section).
./danfe
*) https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=237642
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