Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2021 14:04:48 -0400 From: Jerry <jerry@seibercom.net> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: OS to replace FreeBSD Message-ID: <20210319140448.00007521@seibercom.net> In-Reply-To: <5a8cf0be-646a-a433-2428-9700a47c1bf0@att.net> References: <20210319101040.00005c35@seibercom.net> <CA%2BD9QhsjLtVui6exPDyG2CO5H8X-=YckFjCehHusG7eH_kk2sg@mail.gmail.com> <6054BE1B.50706@gmail.com> <20210319130249.000042a1@seibercom.net> <5a8cf0be-646a-a433-2428-9700a47c1bf0@att.net>
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--Sig_/6o.7o7vErq45yiXJwyWYtS= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, 19 Mar 2021 11:36:10 -0600, Bob Melson stated: >On 3/19/21 11:02 AM, Jerry wrote: >> On Fri, 19 Mar 2021 11:07:07 -0400, Ernie Luzar stated: =20 >>> Matthias Gamsjager wrote: =20 >>>> On Fri, 19 Mar 2021 at 15:16, Jerry <jerry@seibercom.net> wrote: >>>> =20 >>>>> With the soon-to-be release of version 13 of FreeBSD and the EOL >>>>> of FreeBSD 11.x, I will need to invest in a new OS. Due to >>>>> FreeBSD=C3=A2=E2=82=AC=E2=84=A2s unfortunate inability to squash bug >>>>> https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3D237666, l am >>>>> left with no choice but to seek out a new OS. I need a bare-bones >>>>> system that can run a mail server, Postfix with Dovecot, and a >>>>> few other utilities. >>>>> =20 >>> This sounds like only 2 things. 1. Something in your hardware >>> tower is >>> falling. 2. The way you updated from one release to another >>> something went wrong. >>> >>> I would start with a clean build of release 12.2 using a disk drive >>> on a usb stick. See if problem is still there. If so you have >>> hardware problem and no amount of PR is going to fix that. =20 >>=20 >> There was nothing failing; it was a brand new PC. I have done the >> clean install with both 12.0 and 12.2, with the same results. If you >> actually read through the bug report, you would see that I am not >> the only one with this problem. >>=20 >> Apparently, someone reported that you could rebuild the kernel and >> remove USB3 or something like that, but I have neither the time nor >> inclination to do that, assuming I could do it. >>=20 >> Versions 10 & 11 work fine. This is something that FreeBSD did that >> screwed up the works. Dell is aware of the problem but will do >> nothing to attempt to create a work around for it. They claim it is >> working as specified and every other OS, with the exception of >> FreeBSD works correctly on that system. >>=20 >> I am not going to spend more money to get a system that is happy with >> FreeBSD. I buy what I want and then get an OS that is capable of >> operating on it, not the other way around. In any case, I am thinking >> of either Fedora, Debian or Arch Linux. I was just looking for >> recommendations from anyone who has used those systems. >> =20 >What I'd suggest is that you take a deep breath then ask yourself why=20 >you selected FreeBSD in the first place. If the considerations that=20 >were important then are still important then, maybe, switching OSes is=20 >not the right decision. Sure, there are a lot of alternatives out=20 >there, but if the factors that held at the time of your initial choice=20 >are still valid ... > >I'd also suggest that, if BSD in general is what you're most >comfortable with, you consider either NetBSD or OpenBSD as a possible >replacement. Both share the same roots as FreeBSD but have followed >somewhat different paths to reach their current releases. Each has >its positive points, each has negatives; how those negatives might >affect you is up to you to determine. > >Me, I'm presently running generic 12.2 on a Lenovo Ryzen box with no=20 >problems and have run FreeBSD on various hardware since v2.1. I *was* >- once upon a time - a professional user, now I'm just a happily >retired geek. > >Bob Melson >El Paso, TX I had considered using a different flavor of BSD. I still might. However, I also happen to have a spare HD that I could plug into the system, install Windows 10 Pro and Hyper V and then see if FreeBSD 12.x or newer works correctly. That would only take a short amount of time. I just need to do it at night so I can take the system offline. It probably won't work, but if FreeBSD is isolated from the hardware, it might be all that is needed in the short run. --=20 Jerry --Sig_/6o.7o7vErq45yiXJwyWYtS= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQGzBAEBCAAdFiEELeCiu2K+9VmEYYgTgHBP8gv9FXcFAmBU58YACgkQgHBP8gv9 FXcWrgwAhSkdc8cHxiCHXjw3LO2Fp1eddYuYjf/OVWjzc3pFfKDwerIWU4ZIyATt 9AnzbUkEV7OpHxUp7H2Zo0elIzAl7gBCcLCHwCBNTrauctiFS5wy17/7l2AFe4Ce lw2WVfwDn7WtJZh24gbFAQx9vkmJf+Rs5ugnRQBEJiBoDjI3ToBjYi20zM05HYAE ElUQ+IBuXnwxO0VSBI1QenxZ61Zi1H925kpPU9VlUIb/Zuv2hYr+vCYJ6eDJvz+y 0phEbfJobCj/7OyFi/86uTG4pIjvSSseL7Gmt1xu9oyJeNPHRJPTluZ2dpDJOiqm qwUobMjN9k6L8QklBpyDR9bFKADRNUWAz68/SHIut2aE+uWLHkph7Yi0TfwfwEjl M8THfLEvmY91cd66ITC0wU9bcTkRSmgcBLuAd8r+TDC+Lw/gh8ZHZe/Z0xjWVuxO yEwuGw2P4AVPSzbzz02MuldUttxG0hCNjqDMg8R6/+Uq2BbpLBuv20KAD+3nMfXz GuSuVJaD =zdX0 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/6o.7o7vErq45yiXJwyWYtS=--
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