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Date:      Thu, 05 May 2022 13:46:47 +0200
From:      "Julian H. Stacey" <jhs@berklix.com>
To:        Philip Paeps <philip@freebsd.org>
Cc:        postmaster@freebsd.org, ctm-users@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: removal of ctm delta mail lists on @freebsd.org
Message-ID:  <202205051146.245BkmBf082946@fire.js.berklix.net>
In-Reply-To: Your message "Thu, 05 May 2022 18:24:06 %2B0800." <3887FF04-276D-45E8-9D34-1D9A4AAA6B8B@freebsd.org>

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Hi Philip
cc ctm-users@

Philip Paeps wrote:
> On 2022-05-05 17:53:55 (+0800), Julian H. Stacey wrote:
> > Reminder to postmaster@freebsd.org No reply received
> 
> Your message arrived.  I've not had time to check.

OK

> At first glance it 
> looks like those lists were never migrated from mailman to mlmmj and we 
> stopped generating mailman aliases a while back.
> 
> >> If you @freebsd.org have deleted some or all of those lists, please 
> >> let me
> >> know & I will delete your addresses from the aliases list
> >> above, & I would also delete from http://www.berklix.org/ctm/#list
> 
> I think that's fine.

OK Deleted from web page & aliases & newaliases has been run.
You postmaster@freebsd.org will no longer receive bouncing ctm deltas.

> >> BTW if CTM lists dont show up on freebsd.org mailman proves nothing 
> >> either way,
> >> as a long time back (way before freebsd.org started migration from 
> >> mailman to whatever),
> >> the admins of mailman on freebsd.org made the ctm delta lists hidden, 
> >> but they still worked.
> 
> As far as we're concerned, ctm died with cvs, two revision control 
> migrations ago.

Wrong.  Perhaps that mis conception was common & helped discourage
CTM. In fact CTM ran fine with SVN for years.  CTM is still generating
on all streams that are bled across from git to legacy svn.

Maybe later I or someone else will get time to revise the CTM
generator scripts for git.

>  It's a lot cheaper to reject spam directed at its 
> corpse with "mailbox doesn't exist" at the gate on mx1 than to let the 
> message get as far as mlmmj and reject or bounce it there.

Well you will now only get spam directed at those lists, no real
mail fed from ctm delta gnerator scripts, so by all means pipe them
at /dev/null or whatever.

Only exceptions:
	ctm-users@ this discussion list to continue please

	ctm-announce@
		that list is useless & should be closed (if not
		already) Stephen the chief ctm generator had no
		password to announce to it, &/or preferred to use
		ctm-users@ He has retired from ctm, I'm running the
		ctm generator, I too have no password to send
		announcements to ctm-announce@, so it's long been
		useless.

> Thanks.

Thanks too,
Less bounces both ends now :-)

Cheers,
-- 
Julian Stacey  http://berklix.com/jhs/ http://stolenVotes.uk
Arm Ukraine, kill Putin mass murderer causing global grain & fuel shortage.



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