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Date:      Tue, 21 Jun 2022 09:17:09 -0700 (PDT)
From:      "Rodney W. Grimes" <freebsd-rwg@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net>
To:        Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com>
Cc:        "freebsd-arch@freebsd.org" <freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.org>
Subject:   Re: Updating reboot's default
Message-ID:  <202206211617.25LGH9sY053787@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net>
In-Reply-To: <CANCZdfq0bkw4RGy=HoQhx0VHck=JQzoiONWifMY3n37Mpgz17w@mail.gmail.com>

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> 15 or 20 years ago, we talked about changing the default for reboot from
> 'right now' to being safe shutdown. There were arguments made against it
> due to tiny appliances and such.
> 
> Time has past, and this oddity has persisted. It's time to revisit that
> decision.
> 
> I'd propose that we keep 'fastboot' and 'fasthalt' having the immediate
> behavior. However, the 'reboot' command will switch from '-q' behavior to
> '-r' behavior.
> 
> I'll update the man page, etc to reflect these new defaults. Most of the
> systems I've been on in the last 10-15 years have had some flavor of 'alias
> reboot reboot -r' in their login scripts and/or made shell scripts that did
> this. This will match what everybody else is doing, and will likely result
> in less astonishment rather than more, even though it changes a
> long-standing default behavior.
> 
> Comments?
> 
> Warner

That isnt a reboot any more, that is a re-root, and I thought
that re-root requires certain other things to be in place for it
to work correctly, or perhaps I am mis-remebering that.  Also doesnt
this preserve a large amount of prior state? 


-- 
Rod Grimes                                                 rgrimes@freebsd.org



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