Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2024 15:26:34 +0900 From: Tomoaki AOKI <junchoon@dec.sakura.ne.jp> To: Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com> Cc: Cy Schubert <Cy.Schubert@cschubert.com>, FreeBSD Current <freebsd-current@freebsd.org>, Ed Maste <emaste@freebsd.org>, "Julian H. Stacey" <jhs@berklix.com> Subject: Re: Removing fdisk and bsdlabel (legacy partition tools) Message-ID: <20240128152634.828f5031245786b2e1a3bef9@dec.sakura.ne.jp> In-Reply-To: <CANCZdfq051%2BzshHBLEdGcMjsR%2BPyYYQJ5aSOHvTTtcoF-3zZYQ@mail.gmail.com> References: <CAPyFy2CK0Vq8U6J-H4XU3pNA33-uKAxUoNOAbM9SdSFa0Bcqkg@mail.gmail.com> <202401242042.40OKgv8P087348@dell.no.berklix.net> <CAPyFy2AYk6og4bVbOSrgbQ9LApxqEO2AOqucvFvmEaMpyBa44A@mail.gmail.com> <0C644400-6E75-4137-8E37-C3CF632381D0@cschubert.com> <CANCZdfq051%2BzshHBLEdGcMjsR%2BPyYYQJ5aSOHvTTtcoF-3zZYQ@mail.gmail.com>
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On Sat, 27 Jan 2024 21:52:06 -0700 Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com> wrote: > On Sat, Jan 27, 2024, 1:26 PM Cy Schubert <Cy.Schubert@cschubert.com> wrote: > > > On January 26, 2024 7:13:15 PM PST, Ed Maste <emaste@freebsd.org> wrote: > > >On Wed, 24 Jan 2024 at 15:43, Julian H. Stacey <jhs@berklix.com> wrote: > > >> > > >> Probably many do, clueless there's a proposal to remove them, > > >> as many wont be tracking lists (I havent been tracking lately, > > >> focused on moving home, other will have other distractions) > > > > > >As Rod suggested I'll have the tools emit a warning when they are run, > > >so that those users will become aware. > > >https://reviews.freebsd.org/D43585 > > >https://reviews.freebsd.org/D43586 > > > > > > > We can also point people to the two new ports. > > > > The other thing we learned was that people use the installer to do > interesting things in the emergency holographic shell or the installer w/o > installing a system. We should look at ways we can shift to "mfs" so pkg > add can work in that env. Then the basis of the objections collapse. Then > it won't matter it isn't in base. Pkg add whatever recovery tools you think > you need or like to use, formerly in base or no... sure, it will go away... > but 99% of things are useful right away w/o a reboot... > > I don't think it would be a hard project... likely one that could be done > by creating a miniroot that can create the mfs, extract a tarnall to it > then pivot root to that.... pkg could be bootsrrapped and it would be easy > from there... > > Warner IIUC, there were opinions that "moving fidsk/bsdlabel to ports is not good, because it could require internet access even when it is not available". For there, IIRC, dvd1.iso included pre-built pkgs. So it coul be the best candidate. But IIRC, memstick.img doesn't include pre-built pkgs. Having another version of memstick.img something like full-memstick.img which contains full sets (or selected pkgs) would be nice for specific cases that hybrid media doesn't boot (maybe because of broken or too old BIOS). > -- > > Cheers, > > Cy Schubert <Cy.Schubert@cschubert.com> > > FreeBSD UNIX: <cy@FreeBSD.org> Web: https://FreeBSD.org > > NTP: <cy@nwtime.org> Web: https://nwtime.org > > e^(i*pi)+1=0 > > > > Pardon the typos. Small keyboard in use. -- Tomoaki AOKI <junchoon@dec.sakura.ne.jp>
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