Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2024 06:50:37 -0700 (PDT) From: "Rodney W. Grimes" <freebsd-rwg@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net> To: Ed Maste <emaste@FreeBSD.org> Cc: Bertrand Petit <freebsd-hackers@phoe.frmug.org>, freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Removing "CMOS clock set to UTC" question Message-ID: <202406131350.45DDobuA044814@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net> In-Reply-To: <CAPyFy2D623nS=8DkXhA8Eg9ZvTW6BJv3sf79Rp13-keY_atT0w@mail.gmail.com>
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> On Wed, 12 Jun 2024 at 17:14, Bertrand Petit > <freebsd-hackers@phoe.frmug.org> wrote: > > > > > > It is sad to see an option removed because "it confuse users". > > It's not only that it's confusing, it's that there is not much value > in asking the question. > > > I agree > > it is broken so we need to fix it: we should make the option's effect obvious > > so that anyone can understand it. I porpose that in place of asking for a UTC > > or local selection we query "what time is it?" instead. Two choices would be > > presented as (live) timestamps, each simultaneously showing the effect of > > UTC/local time CMOS setting would have later on the host's wall clock. The > > task of the user is to select the option matching any external reference he > > sees fit. > > This is not the point of the question though -- once we have a > timezone selected and the answer to the UTC question the installer > prompts for the user to set the time; it doesn't really matter what it > was before.. Despite being exactly what the question asks, it isn't > really important whether the CMOS clock is currently set to UTC or > local time. What the installer needs to know is whether the user wants > the real-time CMOS clock to contain UTC or local time. You could use this data to present a time based on CMOS with and without the TZ offset and derive the correct wall_cmos_clock value. Please try to make things better, not just less confusing. -- Rod Grimes rgrimes@freebsd.org
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