Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2013 13:47:52 -0700 From: George Hartzell <hartzell@alerce.com> To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Help with filing a [maybe] ZFS/mmap bug. Message-ID: <20967.760.95825.310085@gargle.gargle.HOWL>
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Hi All,
I have what I think is a ZFS related bug. Unfortunately my simplest
test case is a bit cumbersome and I haven't definitively proven that
the problem is ZFS related.
I'm hoping for some feedback on how to move forward.
Quick background: I rip my CD's using grip and produce flac files. I
tag the music using Musicbrainz' Picard and transcode it to mp3's
within Picard using a plugin that I wrote. Picard is a python based
app and uses the Mutagen library to tag files.
I'm working on a MacPro with 10GB ram and using Seagate ST31000340AS
drives updated to the latest firmware (SD1A). The system is running
9-STABLE from late June. It is ZFS only and boots from a mirrored
pool that provides a bunch of zfs filesystems, including my home
directory.
I recently realized that some of the flacs were corrupt and have been
chasing down the problem. I've blamed Picard, my disks (there was
newer, "important" firmware, which they're now running), my RAM,
etc...
After blaming each of the moving parts in turn I offer up the
following experiment as evidence that I have found a ZFS problem.
- start with a bunch of untagged flac files that pass validation with
"flac -t".
- load them into Picard, tag them and save them (this also transcodes
them to mp3's using my plugin and runs a plugin which runs flac -t
on the tagged file).
- run flac -t on all of the tag flac files and collect the result as
pre-exit-validation.
- exit Picard "politely" (using the menu options, not killing it from
the command line...).
- run flac -t on all of the tag flac files and collect the result
post-exit-validation.
- reboot the machine
- run flac -t on all of the tag flac files and collect the result
post-reboot-validation.
On multiple runs through this routine I'll sometimes see errors in the
{pre,post}-exit-validations, but they'll often all validate perfectly.
On all of the runs through the validation I'll see many invalid files
in the post-reboot-validation output.
I've even scp'd the directories to an unrelated machine (Mac OS X
10.8) at the various points to do the "flac -t" validation, with the
same results.
Looking carefully at a couple of instances shows that they differ in a
few bytes. E.g. one file differs by a few bytes starting at 139253 to
139264 (I might have an off by one counting issue, using emacs' buffer
positions here). 2^17 + 2^13 = 139264, which is an interesting
coincidence. In another file I see a difference ending at 2^17+2^12
(again, I might be off by one or so in my counting). Patching the
different hunk from a good file into a bad file (again via emacs)
results in a file that passes validation.
At one point I was blaming RAM and was pulling/swapping sims. Running
with less memory increased the likelihood of files being invalid.
I built up a similar system running 9-STABLE as of yesterday (7/16)
that uses UFS and have been unable to recreate the problem.
Given that the files are valid after exiting Picard, I do not think
that there is anything in my tagging pipeline that is causing the
problem.
The fact that the files "become" invalid after a reboot suggests
something in the ZFS buffering and/or interactions with the VM system.
The observation that running with less memory causes more/earlier
problems reinforces this. The fact that the garbage in the file
happens near a power-of-two boundry also reinforces this.
My current test case involves my local version of Picard and my
plugins, and 165 flac files (some of which Picard can discover
automatically based on grip's freedb based metadata, some of which
need a helping hand). Not particularly minimal but I'm not sure that
I can ever get it trimmed down to something trivial that a ZFS
developer might be able to run locally.
Thanks for making it this far!
How should I move forward with this?
g.
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