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Date:      Wed, 24 Mar 2021 14:50:03 -0700
From:      "Dan Mahoney (Ports)" <freebsd@gushi.org>
To:        Bob Eager <rde@tavi.co.uk>
Cc:        freebsd-ports@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Python 2.7 removal outline
Message-ID:  <216B1367-58DC-4BAE-AE94-76E4ABFF0FC6@gushi.org>
In-Reply-To: <20210324214509.79c3560d@raksha.tavi.co.uk>
References:  <20210324130347.GA29020@freefall.freebsd.org> <20210324214509.79c3560d@raksha.tavi.co.uk>

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There are packages for mailman3 but they=E2=80=99re incomplete and =
don=E2=80=99t result in a working install the way the 2.x build does.  =
You also need mysql, django, etc etc.

Needing django is almost as bad as saying =E2=80=9Csure, the web UI =
depends on WordPress=E2=80=9D.  It=E2=80=99s not standalone cgi=E2=80=99s =
that you can just scriptalias in to apache, and the documentation leaves =
a lot fo be desired.

I=E2=80=99ve been in touch with Mark Sapiro (current maintainer of =
mailman 2.x, limping along in critical-patches-only mode) and 3.x, and =
have other friends on the maint team.  Mark has committed to making some =
time to make 3.x work as simply as 2.x does, as it lowers his support =
load.

At some point, I want to sit down with the code and come up with a =
=E2=80=9Cokay, if a port doesn=E2=80=99t provide this, here=E2=80=99s at =
least a howto=E2=80=9D.

Day job uses mailman2 (we=E2=80=99re a company that makes some DNS =
software that you=E2=80=99ve probably heard of), so this is of interest =
both for personal reasons as well as community.

If anyone else is currently maintaining a mailman3 port, please get in =
touch!

-Dan

> On Mar 24, 2021, at 2:45 PM, Bob Eager <rde@tavi.co.uk> wrote:
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> Rene Ladan <portmgr-secretary@freebsd.org> wrote:
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>> - - mail/mailman is being replaced by clusteradm@  with mlmmj. You
>> can use `pkg lock` to stick with it after removal, if there is no
>> other way.
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> Is anyone working on a mailman 3 port?
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