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Date:      Sun, 23 Dec 2018 11:21:07 +0100
From:      Per Hedeland <per@hedeland.org>
To:        Kevin Oberman <rkoberman@gmail.com>
Cc:        "freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org" <emulation@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: Instant crash starting VBox on 12.0-Stable
Message-ID:  <24b03c02-d7d0-6344-c26c-8e6a5eadc179@hedeland.org>
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On 2018-12-23 06:13, Kevin Oberman wrote:
> On Sat, Dec 22, 2018 at 3:58 PM Per Hedeland <per@hedeland.org <mailto:per@hedeland.org>> wrote:
> 
>     On 2018-12-22 19:19, Kevin Oberman wrote:
>      >
>      > Can anyone confirm running VirtualBox on head after 11.0-Release?
> 
>     Apparently you meant to ask "after 12.0-RELEASE", though I'm not sure
>     about the "after" - anyway *on* 12.0-RELEASE, I'm running
>     virtualbox-ose-5.2.18_1 (from package) with
>     virtualbox-ose-kmod-5.2.22_1 (from port) without problems. Pretty
>     light usage though, a single VM running Linux, started "directly" with
>     "VirtualBox --startvm xxx" and only access via ssh. Starting the
>     "manager application" i.e. plain "VirtualBox", works fine too, though.
> 
>     But, I'm not loading any vboxnet* modules (seems to be more than one
>     these days), only vboxdrv - and that via kld_list in rc.conf, i.e. I
>     have no vbox* variables set there. After fighting with the networking
>     setup (in more complex cases, that I don't currently use) with first
>     vmware and then qemu I decided to do as little as possible of that
>     with VirtualBox itself - only bridge to a tapN device, and do the rest
>     ("actual" bridging/routing) with the standard FreeBSD functionality.
> 
>     --Per Hedeland
> 
> 
> No, I actually meant "be4fore", but I guess it depends on your point of view.. The issue was first reported on RC2, and I have now tested to before the branch of 12 from head. I am about to test on 
> head from August. It has worked on 11.2 all the way through Dec. 17, so it is something that changed some time ago. Your experience tells me that, as I had suspected, that the issue is with the 
> network module which you do not use. So I am just hoping that someone who was testing head and used VirtualBox with networking.

Well, I do use "VirtualBox with networking" - as I wrote, bridged to a
tapN device, which doesn't require the vboxnet* modules. (I then, with
a bit of overkill for this setup, have created a standard FreeBSD
"bridge" interface to which I "addm" both the tapN (via a devd action)
and my physical ethernet interface.) I am not aware of any
functionality that the "builtin" VirtualBox networking provides that I
can't achieve without it. But of course if you are specifically
interested in using it, I don't have any relevant info.

--Per

> Thanks for the report. It certainly help a bit. Now to boot the August 2018 kernel and see what happens.
> --
> Kevin Oberman, Part time kid herder and retired Network Engineer
> E-mail: rkoberman@gmail.com <mailto:rkoberman@gmail.com>
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