Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2024 12:07:44 -0700 From: Chris <bsd-lists@bsdforge.com> To: Mark Delany <x9k@charlie.emu.st> Cc: FreeBSD Hackers <freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: Removing "CMOS clock set to UTC" question Message-ID: <26eaa45fec5b95b6a00948d45aaea927@bsdforge.com> In-Reply-To: <0.2.0-final-1718212027.814-0x75c1f0@qmda.emu.st> References: <CAPyFy2Bo8Mn=Y9g3ePwMN=YOivgTryGpHC4=qzi%2BnJX3c2h68A@mail.gmail.com> <0.2.0-final-1718212027.814-0x75c1f0@qmda.emu.st>
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On 2024-06-12 10:07, Mark Delany wrote: > On 12Jun24, Ed Maste apparently wrote: >> Our installer asks (via tzsetup): >> >> > Is this machine's CMOS clock set to UTC? If it is set to local time, >> > or you don't know, please choose NO here! >> >> I've heard many reports of new users being confused by this question > > And experienced users too! > > I've been installing FBSD and various other OSes for decades and whenever I > see that > question invariable: > > a) I have no clue as to what the machine's CMOS clock is set to in the > first instance > > b) I do not want the hassle of stopping the install to gain access to some > obscure BIOS > screen that might or might not give me the answer. > > c) I have no clue as to the implications of answering this question one > way or the > other. > > d) I don't know whether it's a good idea or not to change the CMOS clock > to UTC if it's > not the case. Is it? > > e) I don't think I've ever seen a similar question asked by any other OS > install. > > At the very least the message should indicate what happens if you get the > answer > wrong. Does the system fail to install, does the clock run backwards, will > my dog stop > barking? What? "If you are unsure, or don't know the answer here. Select NO" Seems intuitive enough. IOW no harm done here, if you choose NO (selects localtime). :) Personally, I don't have a strong BIAS here, except that it's always been this way, and I don't have to remember to set it post installation. So it seems "convenient". > > > Mark. --Chris
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