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Date:      Wed, 13 Jul 2016 11:19:04 +0200
From:      Steve Clement <steve@localhost.lu>
To:        Dan Lukes <dan@obluda.cz>
Cc:        freebsd-security@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: FreeBSD - a lesson in poor defaults?
Message-ID:  <300EEE78-1BF1-460E-ABDD-8EA5C4809941@localhost.lu>
In-Reply-To: <57860275.404@obluda.cz>
References:  <20160713073859.GA88448@localhost.lu> <57860275.404@obluda.cz>

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By default, IMHO, a system should resist a standard install on a public =
ip address without being owned within the hour.

If you need hardening, you should always check and know your system.
Especially if something says =E2=80=9Csecure by default=E2=80=9D.
Wonder how HardenedBSD is doing these days=E2=80=A6 =
https://wiki.freebsd.org/Hardening

You do want to protect your basic users from themselves to a certain =
extent.

The SSL mess is a mess, but libreSSL hasn=E2=80=99t been spared either.

Nevertheless I am sure that the Core Security team is having regular =
discussions on some defaults.

If we can assume that this About blob from the FreeBSD site is it=E2=80=99=
s mission statement:

=E2=80=9C=E2=80=9D=E2=80=9D=E2=80=9D https://www.freebsd.org/about.html
What is FreeBSD?
FreeBSD is an operating system for a variety of platforms which focuses =
on features, speed, and stability. It is derived from BSD, the version =
of UNIX=C2=AE developed at the University of California, Berkeley. It is =
developed and maintained by a large community.
=E2=80=9C=E2=80=9D=E2=80=9D=E2=80=9D

The rant is not that justified baring in mind the versatility of =
FreeBSD.

Sincerely,

Steve


> On 13 Jul 2016, at 10:57, Dan Lukes <dan@obluda.cz> wrote:
>=20
> Particular system needs to be tuned according local environment, goal =
and requirements. Thus I don't care install-time defaults so much.


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