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Date:      Tue, 12 Dec 2017 16:37:05 -0800
From:      Peter Wemm <peter@wemm.org>
To:        freebsd-security@freebsd.org
Cc:        Yuri <yuri@rawbw.com>, Eugene Grosbein <eugen@grosbein.net>, Igor Mozolevsky <mozolevsky@gmail.com>, RW <rwmaillists@googlemail.com>
Subject:   Re: http subversion URLs should be discontinued in favor of https URLs
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On Tuesday, December 12, 2017 04:13:48 PM Yuri wrote:
> On 12/12/17 11:56, Eugene Grosbein wrote:
> > https://wiki.squid-cache.org/Features/SslPeekAndSplice
> >=20
> > You either ignore MITM and proceed with connection anyway or have n=
o
> > connectivity via this channel at all.
> When the user sees that SSL/TLS is stripped, this isn't a vulnerabili=
ty
> of the protocol. User can make a choice to use such connection anyway=
.
> There are command line options like this for some commands, and the
> choice in the browser.
>=20
> Compare this with https using compromised by government CA, when the
> user doesn't have any way of knowing about MITM. So https+private CA
> stands secure.

I think you're missing the point.  It is a sad reality that SSL/TLS cor=
porate=20
(and ISP) MITM exists and is enforced on a larger scale than we'd like.=
  But=20
it is there, and when mandated/enforced you have to go through the MITM=
=20
appliance, or not connect at all.  Private CA's generally break those=20=

appliances - an unfortunate FreeBSD user in this situation is cut off. =
 How is=20
this better?

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