Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2017 10:09:35 -0500 From: Steve Wills <swills@FreeBSD.org> To: scratch65535@att.net, freebsd-ports <ports@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: Install of pkg fuse-ntfs fails because of undefined symbol in pkg!?! Message-ID: <35a953e3-918b-fc32-d990-51f7da16c884@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <ndjm9cl4samqgioi25ro8p2q6liimvr1h4@4ax.com> References: <dvvl9chf9h22dpjto35d44enid819p9rnc@4ax.com> <h91m9cpbmp6js1km1bson74he5uuui9r6h@4ax.com> <1c6cccac-b151-d13c-c763-b336c4680118@freebsd.org> <ndjm9cl4samqgioi25ro8p2q6liimvr1h4@4ax.com>
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This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --lss98XJ8IJF20pVVLVJegWTreSvxwoQNF Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="ISf0kTTbhNSdUp8OcJ8ube5OWLDO6LwKk"; protected-headers="v1" From: Steve Wills <swills@FreeBSD.org> To: scratch65535@att.net, freebsd-ports <ports@freebsd.org> Message-ID: <35a953e3-918b-fc32-d990-51f7da16c884@FreeBSD.org> Subject: Re: Install of pkg fuse-ntfs fails because of undefined symbol in pkg!?! References: <dvvl9chf9h22dpjto35d44enid819p9rnc@4ax.com> <h91m9cpbmp6js1km1bson74he5uuui9r6h@4ax.com> <1c6cccac-b151-d13c-c763-b336c4680118@freebsd.org> <ndjm9cl4samqgioi25ro8p2q6liimvr1h4@4ax.com> In-Reply-To: <ndjm9cl4samqgioi25ro8p2q6liimvr1h4@4ax.com> --ISf0kTTbhNSdUp8OcJ8ube5OWLDO6LwKk Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, On 02/08/2017 12:34, scratch65535@att.net wrote: >=20 > I *did* check for bug reports. I did a search on "utimenstat" > and found exactly one, which had been withdrawn as not being a > bug.=20 >=20 > But it *is* a bug. It's a bug on several levels, the most > significant of which is that the overly frantic schedule makes > versions have the lifespan of a mayfly. And we're told "just > upgrade", as though there's some physical law mandating the > craziness. Ports and packages are maintained on the assumption that the user is using a supported version of the OS. We didn't decide when to end support for 10.1 or 10.2. How long after the end of life for 10.1 would you have ports maintain support? > There are people for whom the system is a tool, not a hobby. They > don't want to have to rebuild their tools any more than > carpenters want to replace their hammers and levels every year or > two. =20 If you've having trouble upgrading that are causing you to rebuild, then that's a different issue, but not one I can help with. It doesn't change the fact that we don't support unsupported versions of the OS. > For those people (I'm one) long version lifespans and bug-free > operation is a much bigger desideratum than winning the secret > race (I presume there is some kind of secret race going on, since > otherwise the crazy scheduling makes No Sense At All). I can't > work out what the strategy for winning is, if there is a > strategy, but I do know that it's not working. Linux has all > but won already, and that's sickening. Ports are maintained by volunteers. If you would like to volunteer to support branches for longer periods of time, let's talk about that. > I've been using the o/s since before v2 (I still have the cds) > and have watched FreeBSD go from being the leading Unix on Intel > boxes to all-but-dead. I don't know how to express how saddened > I feel about that. I think ports are really improving and the rate of improvement is going u= p. Steve --ISf0kTTbhNSdUp8OcJ8ube5OWLDO6LwKk-- --lss98XJ8IJF20pVVLVJegWTreSvxwoQNF Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQGnBAEBCgCRFiEEmPpBSlwqDvnP0K0N9c9isyB7G6EFAlichi9fFIAAAAAALgAo aXNzdWVyLWZwckBub3RhdGlvbnMub3BlbnBncC5maWZ0aGhvcnNlbWFuLm5ldDk4 RkE0MTRBNUMyQTBFRjlDRkQwQUQwREY1Q0Y2MkIzMjA3QjFCQTETHHN3aWxsc0Bm cmVlYnNkLm9yZwAKCRD1z2KzIHsboRySB/91+3rkkAPZtz0n4xrdnOdbDB1DH2LQ CwjJr2pBrZr0YLeYufAPIEiD1lxPs5+Hn7yNFwlbLvt5YrK1j/DiPGXseJ/7oUB7 lcveLKNpPfo/31jwHH1E9mJ6ooy3ym1Anlmd5x8U18Tz6YwoWy463+pfzPo5HP0B brWEZuIZc00Qd8uUL0O7RDC0gDbW80O2nHGxvvAf8bLBkX1Ic6cyvjVvFAGq5a8m +97lpp8WWLHj+mDmtixTJPAxNyMQ6PANyU3tG3Fe1AUUBVK2pyjYfJj4p9IEtbML mGbowkw04awIy9jP7e6VYtkyI8Gxs93Cv9zJ4zEC6V0WIV6hzofTGCXP =Irl6 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --lss98XJ8IJF20pVVLVJegWTreSvxwoQNF--
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