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Date:      Fri, 25 Dec 1998 10:08:28 -0800
From:      Joey Garcia <gummibear@mediaone.net>
To:        freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Unix Desktop
Message-ID:  <3683D49B.A3A79364@mediaone.net>
References:  <3.0.1.32.19981224133345.006990d4@we.mediaone.net> <Pine.BSF.3.91.981224161812.10899D-100000@dsinw.com> <3.0.1.32.19981224164708.006a0228@we.mediaone.net> <13955.10851.337409.38369@ararat.mygus.com>

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Vladik wrote:

> gummibear@we.mediaone.net writes:
>  > At 04:23 PM 12/24/98 -0800, rick hamell wrote:
>  > >
>  > >> Lately, I have basically evaluating the X Windows system, and I just can't
>  > >> figure out why it hasn't been made any easier for average users.  I can't
>  > >> figure out why antialiased fonts (such as true type fonts) haven't been
>  > >> made the standard.  I can't figure out why there hasn't been a solution to
>  > >> the problem of not having a standardized Interface (or a few standardized
>  > >> interfaces to choose from when developing applications or whatever - choice
>  > >> isn't a bad thing).  I can't figure out why the standard X libraries and
>  > >> widget set hasn't been given the 90's look and feel (ala qt libraries).
>  > >
>  > >    There is a possiblity of another Windowing system. BUT, something
>  > >you're over looking is that there are several more Window Managers then
>  > >you've tried. FVMN, Enlightenment, Afterstep. One of them may do what you
>  > >want. Supposedly Enlightenment is pretty configurable.
>  > >
>  > >                            Rick
>  > >
>
>
>
> The things that are still difficult with linux (at least for me)
> are setting up Internet dial-up, Xemacs (to read the news groups and
> mails)/Fonts for various programs.
>   Basically I am trying to find programs/packages that allow
> me to configure that stuff without knowing anything about the config
> files, all GUI driven wizard, that set the whole system up.
> I think a good packagin system together with programs like "dofile
> generators" will do the job eventually.

Yeah, setting up dial-up ppp stuff isn't the most easiest thing to do, but there are
scripts out there that help you do this.  I have been playing around with perl for
quite sometime and I think that maybe I have enough knowledge in C programming to
come up with a binary (just because I like binaries) to set up the ppp stuff.  Pppd
frontends are pretty kewl too.   When I used to use Linux I used kppp which was
great.  The setup wasn't so easy to figure out, but once you figure it out it's
basically point and click.  With FreeBSD I just setup the ppp stuff manually using
the Handbook.  It wasn't that hard, but I guess that all varies between users
systems and stuff like that.

I'm not a pro with XEmacs so I can't help you there.  I'm stil trying to figure out
what it all does, but I like the color coding. :)

I've seen a "Dot File Generator" somewhere on the internet where modules could be
added in order to setup different dot files.  Although, I forgot where it's at.
Anyone know?  Although, it seems like most window managers and stuff come with their
own configuration software now a days.

> Happy holidays,
> Vladislav

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Joseph Garcia
gummibear@mediaone.net
Downey, CA
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