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Date:      Mon, 19 Apr 1999 16:37:49 -0400
From:      cliff ainsworth III <cliff@cliffsworld.com>
To:        FreeBSD Advocacy <advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG>
Subject:   Re: FW: Re: NetBSD: Certified mom-ready(Jordan)
Message-ID:  <371B941D.3CEF051D@cliffsworld.com>
References:  <XFMail.990419214458.asmodai@wxs.nl>

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> > I have long thought that NetBSD needs a single leader, rather than
> > "core."  Linux has Linux, FreeBSD has Jordan, and NetBSD has a
> > committee.
>
> NetBSD doesn't need an autocrat.   NetBSD needs people to stop
> displaying their egos so boldly.   We all want to help, and are doing
> good work.   That's good, and we should be happy about it.
>
>                                _MelloN_
>
> --------------End of forwarded message-------------------------
>
> What? We have a leader like Linus? =)
>
> See Jordan, told you you were dubbed out great leader *big grin*
>
> Now let's make a Cinderella out of you akin to Linus *evil grin*

I was curious how long it take for that posting to appear on our list.
Wasn't that the same reason<problems with the "core"> Theo spun off from
their project oh so long ago. Notice how they forgot to even mention
"OpenBSD has Theo". I am on a few of the other *BSD lists. If I had to
make a quick judgement on which advocacy group has it act together the
most its ours. OpenBSD advocacy is about where we were last summer or so
when started choosing the "Power to Serve"  slogan. NetBSD needs a
little bit of work in their advocacy. It must be a bummer to have a good
product but not have a good team to help advocate or keep the "core"
together. I guess that "posting" is a compliment to all involved with
FreeBSD, from Jordan on down. Another funny one I think was posted on
the OpenBSD list involved daemon news. I think they complained that it
was too FreeBSD centric.  Hmmmm..... lets see..... it started on the
FreeBSD Advocacy list and we incorporated the other BSD groups. And
nothing prevents any of them from submitting numerous articles to
d-news.Then a short time later FreeBSD had its own 'zine. Everybody got
what they wanted.

IMHO..maybe Open/NetBSDers should subscribe to our advocacy list and
learn a little. I don't mean that as a negative or omnipotent comment
either. What helps us should help them and vice versa. Its also possible
that it is easier for us to get great ideas into action because of our
iuser base as compared to theirs. Do we have a number of users compared
to Open/NetBSD users?


-cliff



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