Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2022 20:50:55 +0000 (UTC) From: doug <doug@safeport.com> To: Freebsd Questions <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org> Subject: Using a FreeBSD desktop was somehting about dog food Message-ID: <38b7f44-6d54-fec6-c1f0-d3609d301687@safeport.com>
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I have long believed that the project would benefit from having one core team member who uses FreeBSD as a Desktop. I have often stated my reasons and see no need to repeat them. I am forced to use Windows to answer user questions and use iPads for the things FreeBSD does not do well: zoom, webex, playing [some] videos. Most of my cohorts use Mac. Getting a new Desktop or laptop is tricker than (I think) it needs to be (one of my core team problems) but if you get by that my desktops (usually really old Dells for price) function much better than the last couple of Mac releases. Boots faster, updates easier (yea pkg guys), and has in my opinion better response than Mac. For what we do, web design, hosting, email dealing with server and network issues I think is much easier than on the Mac and that is relatively impossible on iPads. I also like the idea that you get to choose your windowing system. I would probably rather use anything other than KDE, but there is a large group that like it. That's more than cool to me. As was pointed out while we were feeding the dogs, developing X11 and desktops is better left to those who are expert in it and obviously have a passion for that work. FreeBSD IMO works better than fine as the engine those things run on Relative to the user base as a whole there seems to be a sizeable percentage of FreeBSD desktop users. What is problematic is suspend/resume, sound, worked fine in 9-10, not so much in 11-12 (for me obviously). The biggie is however trying to log into motel wifi. The last problem area is video cards. Users who want to come into the Unix world have an easier path with Ubuntu. I think the FreeBSD project would be well served if we were slightly more competive in that area My 2 cents YMMV
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