Date: Sat, 22 Jul 2000 19:30:26 -0700 From: John Oram <norami@unlimited.net> To: "list=freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG" <freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG> Subject: Smallest footprint box?? where to get one? Message-ID: <397A58C2.D77106E8@unlimited.net>
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Hi there:
This came in from a person on the wireless ISP newsgroup mailing list
who is looking for a small-sized platform too. Thought some of you might
find it interesting.
This person is working on an initial order of 500 units. so his price
point might be pretty good, especially of some of you were interested
too.
John Oram
Sacramento, CA
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From: "William Devine, II" <william@smartguys.net>
To: <norami@unlimited.net>
Subject: RE: Smallest footprint Linux box?? where to get one?
Date: Sat, 22 Jul 2000 16:14:00 -0500
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John,
So far the smallest box I've found is 10" x 11" x 3.5" and has a Pentium
233, 32Megs DRAM, 6.4Gig IDE HD, 48x cdrom, 1.44M floppy, two realtek 8139a
NIC's, PS/2 mouse/keyboard, onboard supervga for $420 . It's more of a
small PC and the only two PCI slots it has can be filled with two NIC's
(since I'm looking for something that can push a T1 or slower on the
outside, the realtek's aren't a problem, but if I needed faster I'd go with
an Intel 8255x or 3C905 or something.)
Now, I'm talking with JumpTec (www.jumptec.com, or www.emjembedded.com
their US distributor) about a tiny box with an AMD K6/2 450, 8MB flash,
32Megs RAM, and their Linux distribution that has the basic utilities,
cutdown apache webserver, telnet/ftp/ping/traceroute and IPCHAINS for
firewalling, that would work great for what I'm using it for (plug and play
miniature firewall with IPSEC VPN capabilities. I've heard there is a
picoBSD distribution that has bandwidth shaping, firewalling, NAT, etc that
fits on a 1.44Meg floppy so I might be looking at it to use on the 8MB
Flash. I'm trying to hit the $200 price point for a machine that can handle
a 1.5Meg ADSL or SDSL line for 5-10 machines. I have some NAT boxes
(Linksys, Nexland, NetGear) that can do that easily, but they have to be
running Linux so I can integrate the IPSEC and our custom web-based firewall
management program onto it via a web server.
William
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From: John Oram [mailto:norami@unlimited.net]
Sent: Saturday, July 22, 2000 2:56 PM
To: William Devine, II
Subject: RE: Smallest footprint Linux box?? where to get one?
William:
There are several people on the <freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG> list
including myself who are looking for similar units in quantity of 10 to
20 each units.
If you could send me info on what you have found I'll send it along to
the list and the other folks who said they were interested. You may be
able to pickup some more sales to add onto the order you will be
placing.
John Oram
Sacramento, CA
916-339-2311
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Subject: RE: Smallest footprint Linux box?? where to get one?
From: "William Devine, II" <william@smartguys.net>
Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2000 19:21:18 -0500
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Darren,
I had already contacted them, about 2 weeks ago, and got the
response this
afternoon (quick response.....ahem.)
I'm going to be talking with them about this directly, but I
also received
some VERY good responses and have one in particular, fully populated
with
AMD K6/450 (or Pentium 233), 32Megs, two 10/100 NIC's (supported under
Redhat 6.1), 6Gig HD, floppy, cdrom, 10"x11"x3.5" that can be acquired
for
~$400 each. Even if the Netwinder's performance was exponentially
larger
than this one, I don't want to go over $400 per client. Obviously, in
what
we're going to be doing, price is one of the SOLE determiners, and the
box
only has to have a 166Mhz processor to do what we're doing anyway (maybe
even less.)
William
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