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Date:      Mon, 18 Dec 2000 14:59:53 -0600
From:      Jonathan Fosburgh <syjef@mail.mdanderson.org>
To:        Tim McMillen <timcm@umich.edu>
Cc:        "Gerald T. Freymann" <freymann@eagle.ca>, Questions <questions@FreeBSD.ORG>
Subject:   Re: Hacker history file - OUCH
Message-ID:  <3A3E7AC9.40306@mail.mdanderson.org>
References:  <Pine.SOL.4.10.10012181521360.17224-100000@tempest.gpcc.itd.umich.edu>

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Tim McMillen wrote:

> 
> 	Do you know for sure it was an intruder?  Or was it just one of
> your users?  either way that doesn't look good.  I'm no security expert,
> but the programs they compiled and ran could easily be backdoors to get in
> easily the next time.  It's hard (for me) to tell how bad it is without
> knowing whether they were successful in getting root priveledges.  In the
> history file we don't see the output of the command.  Nothing he did
> afterwards seems to require root priveledges, but if he had them then
> those programs could easily be backdoors. I would consider the box
> compromised.  Is it still in use?  The best way to get the most
> information about an attack is to shutdown and halt the machine ASAP.
> Then mount everything read only (perhaps on another machine.  Then look
> araound.  That way you won't overwrite possible clues.  Any disk access
> after the intruder is there can overwrite that, and that is bad for
> evidence.
> 	You may want to contact the administrators at the sites he ftp'd
> to to alert them and see if they can tell what those files were that he
> downloaded.  
> 	
> 						Tim

The results of the su ought to be in /var/log/messages.  Especially the 
one to toor.  You should either see a success or failure message.  Of 
course, he can only su to toor if the user he was in as is in group wheel.

-- 
Jonathan Fosburgh
Open Systems
Communications and Computer Services
UT MD Anderson Cancer Center
Houston, TX



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