Date: Fri, 03 Aug 2001 20:04:11 +0100 From: ian j hart <ianjhart@ntlworld.com> To: Mike Meyer <mwm@mired.org> Cc: "stable@FreeBSD.ORG" <freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG> Subject: Re: RELENG_4_3 calls itself -RELEASE? Message-ID: <3B6AF5AB.5116FD56@ntlworld.com> References: <2.1-7761648-395-A-OEWW@smtp-server.mmcable.com>
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Mike Meyer wrote: > > ian j hart wrote: > >> Leaving it at -RELEASE isn't all that bad. The original complaint was > >> that it was a surprise. As others have noted, we deal with that kind > >> of thing all the time. Either way, -RELEASE is what's approved by the > >> release engineer. We will have to change the documentation to match, > >> though. > > When you log on and MOTD tells you you have 4.3-RELEASE how do you > > know _which_ 4.3-RELEASE you have. The one with a broken telnetd or > > the one without. (You need to check the date of course). > > If it says -FOO, how do you know which one it is? You don't. You know what it is NOT tho'. How does this help your argument to leave it at -RELEASE? > > The only thing changing the name eliminates is the unpatched case. Exactly. It's a clue stick. > > > What if you have x00 4.3-RELEASE machines to secure? Checking files > > will take a lot longer than reading the MOTD and the build date. That > > assuming you haven't been rooted already of course. ;) > > The same way you do if you have a bunch of x00 4.3-FOO machines to > secure. > > If you really want to test with telnet, you can set the login banner > yourself. I was thinking of a console login. Most of my servers are in one room. and luckily I don't have hundreds. In any case thay are all running 4.3-RELEASE. That's 4.3-RELEASE with the security patches, not the other 4.3-RELEASE. <bg> > > <mike > -- > Mike Meyer <mwm@mired.org> http://www.mired.org/home/mwm/ > Independent WWW/Perforce/FreeBSD/Unix consultant, email for more information. > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message -- ian j hart To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message
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