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Date:      Tue, 20 Jun 2017 11:28:16 -0700
From:      "Ngie Cooper (yaneurabeya)" <yaneurabeya@gmail.com>
To:        Ollivier Robert <roberto@keltia.freenix.fr>
Cc:        freebsd-arch@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: rtools were deemed almost unused 15 years ago...
Message-ID:  <3C040459-025D-4BB2-A4AC-8D180A95322B@gmail.com>
In-Reply-To: <20170620110644.lkdw2s7jnfckapnl@roberto-aw.eurocontrol.fr>
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> On Jun 20, 2017, at 4:06 AM, Ollivier Robert =
<roberto@keltia.freenix.fr> wrote:
>=20
> According to Jeremie Le Hen on Tue, Jun 20, 2017 at 12:25:46PM +0200:
>> Therefore, I hereby propose to remove rtools from the base system.  I
>> acknowledge this will likely cause troubles for a handful of people
>> who are still relying on it for good or bad reasons. But the flipside
>> is that the attack surface of millions of FreeBSD installed out there
>> will be reduced.
>>=20
>> The proposed roadmap is:
>> - disable from the build on head and let it soak for one month
>> - remove rtools from the base.
>>=20
>> What do you guys think?  Any preferred color for the bikeshed? :)
>=20
> Go for it.


	rsh, etc doesn=E2=80=99t live in ports, and there are viable =
uses for it still, even though this day in age they=E2=80=99re greatly =
reduced.
	- I=E2=80=99ll submit a new port for those that still need it.
	- I=E2=80=99ll disable it in base; add a nice comment noting =
that it=E2=80=99s available in ports.
	-> Best case scenario, we can remove rsh from base before 12.0.
Thanks!
-Ngie

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