Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2018 10:36:01 -0700 From: Mark Millard <marklmi@yahoo.com> To: John Baldwin <jhb@freebsd.org>, mat@FreeBSD.org Cc: FreeBSD Ports <freebsd-ports@freebsd.org>, Bryan Drewery <bdrewery@FreeBSD.org> Subject: Re: Building devel/powerpc64-gcc and devel/amd64-gcc and the like fail: "Unable to access file" for many files in work/stage/... Message-ID: <3C4A5862-AC5B-4AC8-B1D3-CD951364C5A7@yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <47AE95CB-1BD7-42DA-AA17-3EC0252FAF59@yahoo.com> References: <3A54CD6F-FEE9-4813-97B8-76A3E619D7F4@yahoo.com> <884de41d-011e-a025-bfec-4e61b5546336@FreeBSD.org> <47AE95CB-1BD7-42DA-AA17-3EC0252FAF59@yahoo.com>
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[So much for reverting -r475361 : it still is producing = *-gcc-6.4.0_2.tbz files. and the version relationship was wrong for when I first saw the issue.] On 2018-Jul-28, at 9:39 AM, Mark Millard <marklmi@yahoo.com> wrote: > [Older directions of investigation omitted.] >=20 > On 2018-Jul-26, at 10:24 AM, John Baldwin <jhb at freebsd.org> wrote: >=20 >> On 7/26/18 12:02 AM, Mark Millard wrote: >>> Based on attempting to update (via poudriere-devel and pkg) to = -r475344 (from >>> a prior 2018-Jul-15 6.4.0_1 build and installation of such = devel/*-gcc --and >>> other things). . . During experiments with this issue I have progressed past -r475344 and the problem has repeated. But I should have noticed 475344 < 475361 . >>> =3D=3D=3D> Building package for powerpc64-gcc-6.4.0_2 >>> pkg-static: Unable to access file = /wrkdirs/usr/ports/devel/powerpc64-gcc/work/stage/usr/local/lib/gcc/powerp= c64-unknown-freebsd12.0/6.4.0/plugin/gtype.state:No such file or = directory >>> pkg-static: Unable to access file = /wrkdirs/usr/ports/devel/powerpc64-gcc/work/stage/usr/local/lib/gcc/powerp= c64-unknown-freebsd12.0/6.4.0/plugin/include/ada/gcc-interface/ada-tree.de= f:No such file or directory >>> pkg-static: Unable to access file = /wrkdirs/usr/ports/devel/powerpc64-gcc/work/stage/usr/local/lib/gcc/powerp= c64-unknown-freebsd12.0/6.4.0/plugin/include/addresses.h:No such file or = directory >>> pkg-static: Unable to access file = /wrkdirs/usr/ports/devel/powerpc64-gcc/work/stage/usr/local/lib/gcc/powerp= c64-unknown-freebsd12.0/6.4.0/plugin/include/alias.h:No such file or = directory >>> pkg-static: Unable to access file = /wrkdirs/usr/ports/devel/powerpc64-gcc/work/stage/usr/local/lib/gcc/powerp= c64-unknown-freebsd12.0/6.4.0/plugin/include/all-tree.def:No such file = or directory >>> pkg-static: Unable to access file = /wrkdirs/usr/ports/devel/powerpc64-gcc/work/stage/usr/local/lib/gcc/powerp= c64-unknown-freebsd12.0/6.4.0/plugin/include/alloc-pool.h:No such file = or directory >>> pkg-static: Unable to access file = /wrkdirs/usr/ports/devel/powerpc64-gcc/work/stage/usr/local/lib/gcc/powerp= c64-unknown-freebsd12.0/6.4.0/plugin/include/ansidecl.h:No such file or = directory >>> pkg-static: Unable to access file = /wrkdirs/usr/ports/devel/powerpc64-gcc/work/stage/usr/local/lib/gcc/powerp= c64-unknown-freebsd12.0/6.4.0/plugin/include/asan.h:No such file or = directory >>> pkg-static: Unable to access file = /wrkdirs/usr/ports/devel/powerpc64-gcc/work/stage/usr/local/lib/gcc/powerp= c64-unknown-freebsd12.0/6.4.0/plugin/include/attribs.h:No such file or = directory >>> pkg-static: Unable to access file = /wrkdirs/usr/ports/devel/powerpc64-gcc/work/stage/usr/local/lib/gcc/powerp= c64-unknown-freebsd12.0/6.4.0/plugin/include/auto-host.h:No such file or = directory >>> pkg-static: Unable to access file = /wrkdirs/usr/ports/devel/powerpc64-gcc/work/stage/usr/local/lib/gcc/powerp= c64-unknown-freebsd12.0/6.4.0/plugin/include/auto-profile.h:No such file = or directory >>> . . . >>> pkg-static: Unable to access file = /wrkdirs/usr/ports/devel/powerpc64-gcc/work/stage/usr/local/lib/gcc/powerp= c64-unknown-freebsd12.0/6.4.0/plugin/include/xcoff.h:No such file or = directory >>> pkg-static: Unable to access file = /wrkdirs/usr/ports/devel/powerpc64-gcc/work/stage/usr/local/lib/gcc/powerp= c64-unknown-freebsd12.0/6.4.0/plugin/include/xcoffout.h:No such file or = directory >>> pkg-static: Unable to access file = /wrkdirs/usr/ports/devel/powerpc64-gcc/work/stage/usr/local/libexec/gcc/po= werpc64-unknown-freebsd12.0/6.4.0/plugin/gengtype:No such file or = directory >>> *** Error code 1 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> =3D=3D=3D> Building package for amd64-gcc-6.4.0_2 >>> pkg-static: Unable to access file = /wrkdirs/usr/ports/devel/amd64-gcc/work/stage/usr/local/lib/gcc/x86_64-unk= nown-freebsd12.0/6.4.0/plugin/gtype.state:No such file or directory >>> pkg-static: Unable to access file = /wrkdirs/usr/ports/devel/amd64-gcc/work/stage/usr/local/lib/gcc/x86_64-unk= nown-freebsd12.0/6.4.0/plugin/include/ada/gcc-interface/ada-tree.def:No = such file or directo >>> ry >>> pkg-static: Unable to access file = /wrkdirs/usr/ports/devel/amd64-gcc/work/stage/usr/local/lib/gcc/x86_64-unk= nown-freebsd12.0/6.4.0/plugin/include/addresses.h:No such file or = directory >>> pkg-static: Unable to access file = /wrkdirs/usr/ports/devel/amd64-gcc/work/stage/usr/local/lib/gcc/x86_64-unk= nown-freebsd12.0/6.4.0/plugin/include/alias.h:No such file or directory >>> pkg-static: Unable to access file = /wrkdirs/usr/ports/devel/amd64-gcc/work/stage/usr/local/lib/gcc/x86_64-unk= nown-freebsd12.0/6.4.0/plugin/include/all-tree.def:No such file or = directory >>> pkg-static: Unable to access file = /wrkdirs/usr/ports/devel/amd64-gcc/work/stage/usr/local/lib/gcc/x86_64-unk= nown-freebsd12.0/6.4.0/plugin/include/alloc-pool.h:No such file or = directory >>> pkg-static: Unable to access file = /wrkdirs/usr/ports/devel/amd64-gcc/work/stage/usr/local/lib/gcc/x86_64-unk= nown-freebsd12.0/6.4.0/plugin/include/ansidecl.h:No such file or = directory >>> pkg-static: Unable to access file = /wrkdirs/usr/ports/devel/amd64-gcc/work/stage/usr/local/lib/gcc/x86_64-unk= nown-freebsd12.0/6.4.0/plugin/include/asan.h:No such file or directory >>> pkg-static: Unable to access file = /wrkdirs/usr/ports/devel/amd64-gcc/work/stage/usr/local/lib/gcc/x86_64-unk= nown-freebsd12.0/6.4.0/plugin/include/attribs.h:No such file or = directory >>> pkg-static: Unable to access file = /wrkdirs/usr/ports/devel/amd64-gcc/work/stage/usr/local/lib/gcc/x86_64-unk= nown-freebsd12.0/6.4.0/plugin/include/auto-host.h:No such file or = directory >>> pkg-static: Unable to access file = /wrkdirs/usr/ports/devel/amd64-gcc/work/stage/usr/local/lib/gcc/x86_64-unk= nown-freebsd12.0/6.4.0/plugin/include/auto-profile.h:No such file or = directory >>> . . . >>>=20 >>> I'll not list devel/aarch64 materials but they are similar. >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> Looking around for, say, gtype.state shows the likes of: >>>=20 >>> # find /wrkdirs/usr/ports/devel/ -name gtype.state -print | more >>> /wrkdirs/usr/ports/devel/powerpc64-gcc/work/.build/gcc/gtype.state >>> /wrkdirs/usr/ports/devel/amd64-gcc/work/.build/gcc/gtype.state >>>=20 >>> ( Nothing in work/stage/... ) >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> In fact: >>>=20 >>> # ls -laTt = /wrkdirs/usr/ports/devel/powerpc64-gcc/work/stage/usr/local/lib/gcc/powerp= c64-unknown-freebsd12.0/6.4.0/ >>> total 16 >>> drwxr-xr-x 4 root wheel 512 Jul 25 22:00:28 2018 . >>> drwxr-xr-x 3 root wheel 512 Jul 25 21:59:38 2018 install-tools >>> drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 512 Jul 25 21:59:37 2018 include >>> drwxr-xr-x 3 root wheel 512 Jul 25 21:59:26 2018 .. >>>=20 >>> # ls -laTt = /wrkdirs/usr/ports/devel/amd64-gcc/work/stage/usr/local/lib/gcc/x86_64-unk= nown-freebsd12.0/6.4.0/ >>> total 16 >>> drwxr-xr-x 4 root wheel 512 Jul 25 22:07:48 2018 . >>> drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 2048 Jul 25 22:07:48 2018 include >>> drwxr-xr-x 3 root wheel 512 Jul 25 22:07:47 2018 install-tools >>> drwxr-xr-x 3 root wheel 512 Jul 25 22:07:44 2018 .. >>>=20 >>> # ls -laTt = /wrkdirs/usr/ports/devel/powerpc64-gcc/work/stage/usr/local/libexec/gcc/po= werpc64-unknown-freebsd12.0/6.4.0/ >>> total 284336 >>> drwxr-xr-x 3 root wheel 512 Jul 25 22:00:28 2018 . >>> -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 2812448 Jul 25 22:00:26 2018 = lto-wrapper >>> drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 512 Jul 25 21:59:38 2018 = install-tools >>> -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 101453496 Jul 25 21:59:35 2018 cc1plus >>> -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 2402600 Jul 25 21:59:35 2018 collect2 >>> -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 90112408 Jul 25 21:59:35 2018 lto1 >>> -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 93819272 Jul 25 21:59:34 2018 cc1 >>> lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 22 Jul 25 21:59:28 2018 = liblto_plugin.so -> liblto_plugin.so.0.0.0 >>> lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 22 Jul 25 21:59:28 2018 = liblto_plugin.so.0 -> liblto_plugin.so.0.0.0 >>> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 264360 Jul 25 21:59:28 2018 = liblto_plugin.so.0.0.0 >>> drwxr-xr-x 3 root wheel 512 Jul 25 21:59:26 2018 .. >>>=20 >>> # ls -laTt = /wrkdirs/usr/ports/devel/amd64-gcc/work/stage/usr/local/libexec/gcc/x86_64= -unknown-freebsd12.0/6.4.0/ >>> total 317648 >>> drwxr-xr-x 3 root wheel 512 Jul 25 22:07:48 2018 . >>> drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 512 Jul 25 22:07:47 2018 = install-tools >>> -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 2829704 Jul 25 22:07:47 2018 = lto-wrapper >>> -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 105180264 Jul 25 22:07:46 2018 cc1 >>> -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 112817696 Jul 25 22:07:46 2018 cc1plus >>> -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 2404680 Jul 25 22:07:46 2018 collect2 >>> -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 101541352 Jul 25 22:07:46 2018 lto1 >>> drwxr-xr-x 3 root wheel 512 Jul 25 22:07:44 2018 .. >>> lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 22 Jul 25 22:07:44 2018 = liblto_plugin.so -> liblto_plugin.so.0.0.0 >>> lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 22 Jul 25 22:07:44 2018 = liblto_plugin.so.0 -> liblto_plugin.so.0.0.0 >>> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 264168 Jul 25 22:07:44 2018 = liblto_plugin.so.0.0.0 >>>=20 >>> So no plugin paths at all. So looking . . . >>>=20 >>> # find /wrkdirs/usr/ports/devel/ -name plugin -print | more >>> = /wrkdirs/usr/ports/devel/powerpc64-gcc/work/gcc-6.4.0/libjava/classpath/na= tive/plugin >>> /wrkdirs/usr/ports/devel/powerpc64-gcc/work/gcc-6.4.0/libgomp/plugin >>> = /wrkdirs/usr/ports/devel/powerpc64-gcc/work/gcc-6.4.0/liboffloadmic/plugin= >>> = /wrkdirs/usr/ports/devel/powerpc64-gcc/work/gcc-6.4.0/gcc/testsuite/objc.d= g/plugin >>> = /wrkdirs/usr/ports/devel/powerpc64-gcc/work/gcc-6.4.0/gcc/testsuite/gcc.dg= /plugin >>> = /wrkdirs/usr/ports/devel/powerpc64-gcc/work/gcc-6.4.0/gcc/testsuite/g++.dg= /plugin >>> = /wrkdirs/usr/ports/devel/powerpc64-gcc/work/gcc-6.4.0/gcc/testsuite/obj-c+= +.dg/plugin >>> = /wrkdirs/usr/ports/devel/amd64-gcc/work/gcc-6.4.0/libjava/classpath/native= /plugin >>> /wrkdirs/usr/ports/devel/amd64-gcc/work/gcc-6.4.0/libgomp/plugin >>> = /wrkdirs/usr/ports/devel/amd64-gcc/work/gcc-6.4.0/liboffloadmic/plugin >>> = /wrkdirs/usr/ports/devel/amd64-gcc/work/gcc-6.4.0/gcc/testsuite/objc.dg/pl= ugin >>> = /wrkdirs/usr/ports/devel/amd64-gcc/work/gcc-6.4.0/gcc/testsuite/gcc.dg/plu= gin >>> = /wrkdirs/usr/ports/devel/amd64-gcc/work/gcc-6.4.0/gcc/testsuite/g++.dg/plu= gin >>> = /wrkdirs/usr/ports/devel/amd64-gcc/work/gcc-6.4.0/gcc/testsuite/obj-c++.dg= /plugin >>>=20 >>> (None of which seem to be a match.) >>>=20 >>> Picking a plugin/include/*.h file and looking for it: >>>=20 >>> lib/gcc/%%GCC_TARGET%%/%%GCC_VERSION%%/plugin/include/xcoff.h >>>=20 >>> # find /wrkdirs/usr/ports/devel/ -name xcoff.h -print | more >>> = /wrkdirs/usr/ports/devel/powerpc64-gcc/work/gcc-6.4.0/gcc/config/rs6000/xc= off.h >>> /wrkdirs/usr/ports/devel/powerpc64-gcc/work/gcc-6.4.0/gcc/xcoff.h >>> = /wrkdirs/usr/ports/devel/amd64-gcc/work/gcc-6.4.0/gcc/config/rs6000/xcoff.= h >>> /wrkdirs/usr/ports/devel/amd64-gcc/work/gcc-6.4.0/gcc/xcoff.h >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> Note: the devel/*-binutils builds worked fine, as did devel/gdb . >>> ( lang/gcc8 is still rebuilding. ) >>>=20 >>> Context: >>>=20 >>> # uname -apKU >>> FreeBSD FBSDUSSD 12.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 12.0-CURRENT r336693M amd64 = amd64 1200075 1200075 >>=20 >> Hmm, I'll investigate. I wonder if it's the fact that I fixed the = --host to correctly >> use x86_64 instead of amd64 when building a !amd64 GCC on an amd64 = host (r475291). >=20 > I reverted -r475361 and started a poudriere-devel based build > to test if it is contributing to the above. I'll report back > later. >=20 > This was: >=20 > Author: mat > Date: Thu Jul 26 11:09:46 2018 > New Revision: 475361 > URL:=20 > https://svnweb.freebsd.org/changeset/ports/475361 >=20 >=20 > Log: > Extract PLIST_SUB substitutions into a sed script. >=20 > This fixes PLIST_SUB being too big and PLIST_SUB_SED getting bigger = than > _POSIX2_LINE_MAX. >=20 > PR: 222355 > Reported by: asomers > Reviewed by: asomers, mfechner > Sponsored by: Absolight > Differential Revision: =20 > https://reviews.freebsd.org/D14014 >=20 >=20 > Modified: > head/Mk/Scripts/check-stagedir.sh (contents, props changed) > head/Mk/Scripts/check_leftovers.sh (contents, props changed) > head/Mk/Scripts/plist_sub_sed_sort.sh (contents, props changed) >=20 > # svnlite update -r475360 /usr/ports/Mk/Scripts/check-stagedir.sh = /usr/ports/Mk/Scripts/check_leftovers.sh = /usr/ports/Mk/Scripts/plist_sub_sed_sort.sh > Updating '/usr/ports/Mk/Scripts/check-stagedir.sh': > U /usr/ports/Mk/Scripts/check-stagedir.sh > Updated to revision 475360. > Updating '/usr/ports/Mk/Scripts/check_leftovers.sh': > U /usr/ports/Mk/Scripts/check_leftovers.sh > Updated to revision 475360. > Updating '/usr/ports/Mk/Scripts/plist_sub_sed_sort.sh': > U /usr/ports/Mk/Scripts/plist_sub_sed_sort.sh > Updated to revision 475360. > Summary of updates: > Updated '/usr/ports/Mk/Scripts/check-stagedir.sh' to r475360. > Updated '/usr/ports/Mk/Scripts/check_leftovers.sh' to r475360. > Updated '/usr/ports/Mk/Scripts/plist_sub_sed_sort.sh' to r475360. I still have not figured out why the staging associated with $(srcdir)/cp/Make-lang.in is not being executed. In other words, after normal material in the log, the following sort of material is missing. (". . ."s for various omissions, lots omitted.) (This repeats text from an earlier message for a different investigation path, from before I added mat.) headers=3D"cp-tree.h cxx-pretty-print.h name-lookup.h type-utils.h"; \ for file in $headers; do \ path=3D/wrkdirs/usr/ports/devel/amd64-gcc/work/gcc-6.4.0/gcc/cp/$file; = \ = dest=3D/usr/local/lib/gcc/x86_64-unknown-freebsd12.0/6.4.0/plugin/include/= cp/$file; \ echo install -m 0644 $path = /wrkdirs/usr/ports/devel/amd64-gcc/work/stage$dest; \ dir=3D`dirname $dest`; \ /bin/sh = /wrkdirs/usr/ports/devel/amd64-gcc/work/gcc-6.4.0/gcc/../mkinstalldirs = /wrkdirs/usr/ports/devel/amd64-gcc/work/stage$dir; \ install -m 0644 $path = /wrkdirs/usr/ports/devel/amd64-gcc/work/stage$dest; \ done install -m 0644 = /wrkdirs/usr/ports/devel/amd64-gcc/work/gcc-6.4.0/gcc/cp/cp-tree.h = /wrkdirs/usr/ports/devel/amd64-gcc/work/stage/usr/local/lib/gcc/x86_64-unk= nown-freebsd12.0/6.4.0/plugin/include/cp/cp-tree.h mkdir = /wrkdirs/usr/ports/devel/amd64-gcc/work/stage/usr/local/lib/gcc/x86_64-unk= nown-freebsd12.0/6.4.0/plugin mkdir = /wrkdirs/usr/ports/devel/amd64-gcc/work/stage/usr/local/lib/gcc/x86_64-unk= nown-freebsd12.0/6.4.0/plugin/include mkdir = /wrkdirs/usr/ports/devel/amd64-gcc/work/stage/usr/local/lib/gcc/x86_64-unk= nown-freebsd12.0/6.4.0/plugin/include/cp install -m 0644 = /wrkdirs/usr/ports/devel/amd64-gcc/work/gcc-6.4.0/gcc/cp/cxx-pretty-print.= h = /wrkdirs/usr/ports/devel/amd64-gcc/work/stage/usr/local/lib/gcc/x86_64-unk= nown-freebsd12.0/6.4.0/plugin/include/cp/cxx-pretty-print.h install -m 0644 = /wrkdirs/usr/ports/devel/amd64-gcc/work/gcc-6.4.0/gcc/cp/name-lookup.h = /wrkdirs/usr/ports/devel/amd64-gcc/work/stage/usr/local/lib/gcc/x86_64-unk= nown-freebsd12.0/6.4.0/plugin/include/cp/name-lookup.h install -m 0644 = /wrkdirs/usr/ports/devel/amd64-gcc/work/gcc-6.4.0/gcc/cp/type-utils.h = /wrkdirs/usr/ports/devel/amd64-gcc/work/stage/usr/local/lib/gcc/x86_64-unk= nown-freebsd12.0/6.4.0/plugin/include/cp/type-utils.h rm -f tmp-header-vars echo USER_H=3Dtgmath.h mm_malloc.h >> tmp-header-vars; echo = HASHTAB_H=3Dhashtab.h >> tmp-header-vars; echo OBSTACK_H=3Dobstack.h >> = tmp-header-vars; . . . echo GTFILES_LANG_H=3Dgtype-ada.h gtype-c.h = gtype-cp.h gtype-fortran.h gtype-go.h gtype-java.h gtype-jit.h = gtype-lto.h gtype-objc.h gtype-objcp.h >> tmp-header-vars; \ /bin/sh = /wrkdirs/usr/ports/devel/amd64-gcc/work/gcc-6.4.0/gcc/../move-if-change = tmp-header-vars b-header-vars echo timestamp > s-header-vars /bin/sh = /wrkdirs/usr/ports/devel/amd64-gcc/work/gcc-6.4.0/gcc/../mkinstalldirs = /wrkdirs/usr/ports/devel/amd64-gcc/work/stage/usr/local/lib/gcc/x86_64-unk= nown-freebsd12.0/6.4.0/plugin install -m 0644 gtype.state = /wrkdirs/usr/ports/devel/amd64-gcc/work/stage/usr/local/lib/gcc/x86_64-unk= nown-freebsd12.0/6.4.0/plugin/gtype.state /bin/sh = /wrkdirs/usr/ports/devel/amd64-gcc/work/gcc-6.4.0/gcc/../mkinstalldirs = /wrkdirs/usr/ports/devel/amd64-gcc/work/stage/usr/local/libexec/gcc/x86_64= -unknown-freebsd12.0/6.4.0/plugin mkdir = /wrkdirs/usr/ports/devel/amd64-gcc/work/stage/usr/local/libexec/gcc/x86_64= -unknown-freebsd12.0/6.4.0/plugin install -s -m 555 gengtype = /wrkdirs/usr/ports/devel/amd64-gcc/work/stage/usr/local/libexec/gcc/x86_64= -unknown-freebsd12.0/6.4.0/plugin/gengtype /bin/sh = /wrkdirs/usr/ports/devel/amd64-gcc/work/gcc-6.4.0/gcc/../mkinstalldirs = /wrkdirs/usr/ports/devel/amd64-gcc/work/stage/usr/local/lib/gcc/x86_64-unk= nown-freebsd12.0/6.4.0/plugin/include headers=3D`echo tree.h tree-core.h coretypes.h all-tree.def tree.def = c-family/c-common.def = /wrkdirs/usr/ports/devel/amd64-gcc/work/gcc-6.4.0/gcc/ada/gcc-interface/ad= a-tree.def = /wrkdirs/usr/ports/devel/amd64-gcc/work/gcc-6.4.0/gcc/cp/cp-tree.def . . = . . . . So far the /wrkdirs/usr/ports/devel/*-gcc/work/.build/ seems normal for = what I've looked at the files that should be installed somewhere under stage/ are = available. The prior parts off the install-into-stage material went fine. =3D=3D=3D Mark Millard marklmi at yahoo.com ( dsl-only.net went away in early 2018-Mar)
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