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Date:      Tue, 05 Mar 2002 22:51:38 -0800
From:      Terry Lambert <tlambert2@mindspring.com>
To:        Mike Meyer <mwm-dated-1015828071.85b1a7@mired.org>
Cc:        Miguel Mendez <flynn@energyhq.homeip.net>, Cliff Sarginson <csfbsd@raggedclown.net>, anderson@centtech.com, Josef Karthauser <joe@tao.org.uk>, chat@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: http://users.uk.freebsd.org/~juha/
Message-ID:  <3C85BC7A.C8EC8E0D@mindspring.com>
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Mike Meyer wrote:
> No, it was made up by real hackers - the kind that get invited to the
> hackers conference - to describe people who break into computer
> systems that they aren't allowed onto, so they could continue calling
> themselves hackers without people assuming they were some kind of
> criminal.
> 
> I was that the hackes conference the press was allowed to visit. The
> piece on he conference made it out like we were all some kind of
> villains, plotting the next attack on Silicon Valley. Never mind that
> a measurable percentage of the *ownership* of Silicon Valley was in
> attendance.
> 
> Notable for his absense was Captain Crunch.

FWIW, John is working as the front guy for a security
company these days, so he's unlikely to show up anywhere
he might be considered shady.  ;^).

-- Terry

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