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Date:      Fri, 25 Oct 2002 12:29:27 +0200
From:      Atle <trollet@skynet.be>
Cc:        sparc64@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: sparc64 tinderbox failure
Message-ID:  <3DB91D07.2166E0CE@skynet.be>
References:  <200210241942.g9OJgGg6093678@bowie.private> <15800.21949.518746.273369@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> <20021024183915.A89245@locore.ca>

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Jake Burkholder wrote:

> Search for "sun ultra" on ebay; I got mine from paladintech.  Ultra 10s
> are cheaper but more PC class, my 300mhz does a full buildworld in about
> 5 hours last time I timed it.  Ultra 2 is probably the best value, but
> we don't support the builtin scsi controller yet.

This is probably half-way OT, but I ask anyway since it would be OT many
other places as well.
I know nothing about SCSI controllers, but believe some have a BIOS, but
most are used by communicating through .

The objective of my question is to figure out if I can make my Ultra 10
less PC-like by putting in a PCI IDE-RAID acting like a SCSI-card.

I don't want to buy it and get bad surprises, though :-)

If SCSI is supported, and an IDE-RAID card presents a SCSI interface to
the driver, shouldn't it work?

The only thing I can imagine that woudl keep it from working, would be
if the driver needed some functions that could not be emulated by the
card, but what on earth would they be?

To someone building a driver for a PCI card, PCI is PCI OpenBoot or not,
right?

If a driver for an IDE RAID could be made, I think many U10 owners would
be happy, there is no doubt to me that the IDE is what makes the U10
PC-like ...

Here are some specific questions that might help me understand in case
it is impossible or impractical to put a non-Sun SCSI or IDE-RAID card
in the U10:

What is at 0xC8000?
If it needs to be remapped, is there no place in the U10 address space
it could go?
Does the U10's CPU need to be able to run any of the SCSI-card's BIOS
code?
Isn't worst case scenario one where I would make use of my EPROM burner
and replace the BIOS on a PC RAID-card with SPARC instructions?
BSD doesn't require OpenBoot-compatible PCI cards, does it?

With apologies for ignorance, Atle



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