Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2003 15:14:23 -0400 From: Chuck Swiger <cswiger@mac.com> To: Free BSD List <freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG> Subject: Re: 11 Hour Installs on KDE? Message-ID: <3EFDE90F.3010301@mac.com> In-Reply-To: <BB231D34.11D40%joepok@ninestar.com> References: <BB231D34.11D40%joepok@ninestar.com>
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Joe Pokupec wrote: > I installed 5.1 on 2 separate machines yesterday. After the general install > (which included all the Ports), I went to /usr/ports/x11/kde3 and did a: > > make install clean after reading tfm. > > The install has been going for over 11 hours now. It's not hung up, the text > is scrolling by... On both machines... > > Is there something I should know? X is huge and bloated. CDE was a graphic user environment designed by a committee of Unix vendors: Sun had NeWS, OpenWindows, Motif/MWM and CDE choose the latter rather than either of the former, HP had HP/UX and that wretched bottom center console thing [a poor clone of the CMU 'wmc' console under Andrew], who else? AIX & 'smit'? Anyway, since then, CDE has pursued the goal of emulating aspects of the M$ Windows GUI. KDE is the open source project attempting provide a familiar end-user desktop. Which is a much kinder way of saying they're inheriting much of the mess found by emulating the X/Open Group/SCO/whomever-owed CDE emulating Win 98. Did I mention Qt yet? Anyway, KDE and all of the dependencies can take a really long time to build. [ I will not rant about X's lack of a unified imaging model and the screen vs. printing issue. Or about font mechanisms, or alpha blending. The KDE Project does a good job considering what it is they are working with. Apropos: in the movie, "The Highlander", the apology made in Connor MacLeod's "famous duel on Boston Common"...? :-) ] -- -Chuck
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