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Date:      Wed, 05 Nov 2003 07:40:01 -0500
From:      Bill Moran <wmoran@potentialtech.com>
To:        =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Dag-Erling_Sm=F8rgrav?= <des@des.no>
Cc:        chat@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: How do hackers drive?
Message-ID:  <3FA8EFA1.7020507@potentialtech.com>
In-Reply-To: <xzpy8uvp7c8.fsf@dwp.des.no>
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Dag-Erling Smørgrav wrote:
> Bill Moran <wmoran@potentialtech.com> writes:
> 
>>Dag-Erling Smørgrav wrote:
>>
>>>Bicycle-friendly, but lethal for pedestrians.  Dutch cyclists treat
>>>pedestrians with the same contempt as drivers to cyclists in most
>>>other countries...
>>
>>Are you serious?  That doesn't sound possible [...] I would
>>think there is a certain amount of self-preservation that prevents
>>cyclists from colliding with pedestrians.
> 
> That doesn't mean they *respect* pedestrians.  They generally treat
> pedestrians like vermin invading their right-of-way (at least that's
> what it felt like in Delft, though Amsterdam - or the parts of
> Amsterdam I've been in - isn't nearly as bad)

Well, that I can understand.  It follow what I said about many cyclists
not obeying the rules of the road.  Professional cyclists (like bicycle
messengers) tend to assume that everyone out there has developed
lightening-fast reflexes.  And I think part of the reason that bicycle
messengers exist at all is _because_ they can generally get away with
breaking the rules (and thus travel faster than cars in a crowded city).

I guess the general rule might be that the fast generally disrespect
the slower.

-- 
Bill Moran
Potential Technologies
http://www.potentialtech.com



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