Date: Sun, 07 May 2017 07:14:33 -0400 From: <scratch65535@att.net> To: Sebastian Schwarz <seschwar@gmail.com> Cc: freebsd-ports <ports@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: pkg and packages Message-ID: <3ottgc9dv8bumdjk36i1vq4abb8toj239g@4ax.com> In-Reply-To: <87mvarar9n.fsf@domain.invalid> References: <chgjgc91bp3vu3aufg8p9cavrp7iehvhei@4ax.com> <d903c4aa02b629b5d22cedc62ac33031@ultimatedns.net> <2c69cd39-2cd2-3b6d-a2e0-f28a9fda7e05@infracaninophile.co.uk> <qm2mgc9hdu4cl5ddasnk8albkg0ncj9osn@4ax.com> <87mvarar9n.fsf@domain.invalid>
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[Default] On Sat, 06 May 2017 00:11:00 +0200, Sebastian Schwarz <seschwar@gmail.com> wrote: >On 2017-05-04, scratch65535@att.net wrote: >> I can't imagine what code could possibly be in thunar and >> samba that the xfce desktop would need, (...) > >Thunar is used to display the icons on the XFCE desktop. It >depends on gvfs, which is used for accessing remote file systems >and the trash inside Thunar. gvfs in turn depends on samba44 in >order to access CIFS/SMB shares. > >Strictly speaking some of these features might be optional. But >as far I know pkg currently doesn't have a concept of optional >dependencies. So it's an all or nothing decision, when building >the packages. It's really not even "strictly speaking". They always should be separate installs, not ever bundled together. What use can someone have for samba who doesn't have any windows boxes? And since samba is the guy who does all the work to make the freebsd filesystems look non-threatening to windows, why, really, is gvfs needed at all? As far as I'm aware, there's no way, short of finding and installing a copy of that old, unsupported windows nfs client, for freebsd to access a windows box.. And thunar doesn't seem to require the desktop (when are icons placed on the desktop? I can't recall ever seeing that), since after my desktop was discarded during the general upgrade, the panels, icons, and thunar all continued to function as before, which since xfce is a modular, loosely-coupled system, was not unexpected.
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