Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 11:49:43 -0600 From: Brett Glass <brett@lariat.org> To: Terry Lambert <tlambert@primenet.com> Cc: regnauld@ftf.net, freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Oh my, penguins are a'comin': DebianBSD Message-ID: <4.2.0.58.19990720114545.00a91670@localhost> In-Reply-To: <199907201740.KAA09850@usr02.primenet.com> References: <4.2.0.58.19990720092854.00a91100@localhost>
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At 05:40 PM 7/20/99 +0000, Terry Lambert wrote:
>The idea of a DebianBSD, so long as they are respective of the
>copyright and license issues when choosing an agregate license,
>is not, in itself, a bad thing.
Agreed. What *is* a bad thing is sucking the world into the
gaping maw of the GPL.
>The entire point of a UCB style license is that you raise the
>bar at the same time you level the playing field.
>
>You will still get resistance from commercial companies, where
>this means that they can't sit on their laurels and profit-take
>as much as they would perhaps prefer to do. My answer to this
>is "tough; lead, follow, or get the hell out of our way".
>
>I think that this whole idea has been somehow lost, or sublimated,
>by both advocacy ("mine is best") and inertia ("we can't integrate
>that fast").
>
>Instead, advocacy should be "mine is best; here, take it and use
>it as your own", and policy should be "we can't integrate that
>fast; here, let us give you a branch, change the tools we are
>using so that it isn't a barrier to you, or, worst case, let us
>get the hell out of your way".
Exactly. Unfortunately, while some people in the Debian camp
understand this, many others embrace the bitter, spiteful,
childish ideas and rhetoric of Richard Stallman.
>I fully support getting the best bits to the most people, and I
>don't give a damn who pushes those bits under what cover, so
>long as the chosen cover doesn't reduce the possible total we
>can count when we say "the most people" (e.g. "but not you, Bob;
>you're an evil capitalist, and we hate you").
The problem is that, if BSD code (or even extensions to it) wind up
under the GPL, this is exactly what happens! What can be done
about this?
--Brett
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