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Date:      Sun, 12 Sep 1999 20:03:18 -0600
From:      Brett Glass <brett@lariat.org>
To:        "Daniel O'Connor" <doconnor@gsoft.com.au>
Cc:        FreeBSD-chat <freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG>
Subject:   RE: Good News! FreeBSD monopoly! (Was: Good News! Commercial Bac
Message-ID:  <4.2.0.58.19990912195547.04ac89c0@localhost>
In-Reply-To: <XFMail.990913112055.doconnor@gsoft.com.au>
References:  <4.2.0.58.19990912192050.04abebc0@localhost>

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At 11:20 AM 9/13/99 +0930, Daniel O'Connor wrote:

 > >Brett isn't raising good points. Brett is raising Brett's points. 
> >  The fact that they provoke such a strong response from you suggests that
> >  they may be good points indeed.
>
>Probably not, they're just plain emotional manipulation to get people's hackles
>up.

Actually, I'm stating them with as little emotion as possible. They're just
FACTS, that's all. The issue is, what to do about them?

> > >Nearly all of Brett's messages hail the impending doom of FreeBSD. 
> >  Not so. I've pointed out, however, that FreeBSD is losing market share and
> >  is being crowded out of its niche by Linux. 
>
>What a positive statement! I'm so reasured by your continuing support for
>FreeBSD.

If I did not support FreeBSD, I wouldn't express concern about this. I'd say,
"Oh, goody! Linux is winning!"

The fact that I note that something ungood is going on, rather than just wearing
a painted-on happy face, does not mean I am unsupportive of FreeBSD. Quite the
contrary. As I've said many times, I want to do something about it and have noted 
ways in which I believe the trends can be reversed.

> > >I say that Brett's discussion here does FreeBSD harm.
> >  I say that it has revealed some nagging problems which are doing FreeBSD
> >  You're blaming the messenger.
>
>*THATs* a cop out. 'You can't critisize me - I'm just the messenger' 
>I'll say what a lot of other people have said, you state the problem without
>suggesting any decent solutions. 

Have you been off in hyperspace somewhere? REALLY. I've been proposing many
solutions -- including some very bold ones that'd take a big chunk of my own 
time, money, and energy. Execution, however, depends on avoidance of sabotage
by either Walnut Creek or FreeBSD, Inc., either of which could kill the
project and perpetuate FreeBSD's slide.

--Brett Glass



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