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Date:      Thu, 08 Apr 2004 16:09:01 +0200
From:      Remko Lodder <remko@elvandar.org>
To:        freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Install world fails, computer almost unusable
Message-ID:  <40755CFD.9070200@elvandar.org>
In-Reply-To: <001301c41d6e$c701d290$0c00a8c0@artem>
References:  <hvsu02.reqtnt@webmail.triera.net> <20040407171128.GA74509@xor.obsecurity.org> <001301c41d6e$c701d290$0c00a8c0@artem>

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Artem Koutchine wrote:
> IMHO the upgrade pricedure is unstable and wrong in either case.
> 

Then why is it a proven working procedure? (I upgraded my boxes from 
5.0-RC1 to 5.2.1-p4 (all the way) And it never failed on me!)

Previously on 4.x it also worked out fine (another method i used over 
there, but that also worked out)

> If you  build, install a new kernel and reboot and they make installworld
> you may face code dumps because all world is not compatible with the
> new kernel.

Not at my machine.
> 
  > IMHO this thing must be resolved in the future and it would be nice
> to do it this way:
> 1) build kernel and install it into a buffer

/boot will be fine for me (like it does now)

> 2) build workld and install it into a buffer

That requires that you have a lot of diskspace, so some users can have 
issues with this, and then again in my opinion there is no problem, and 
if there is a problem this won't solve it.


> 3) make changes to config files and install new config file into a buffer

install kernel, reboot, make buildworld, reboot in singleusermode
make installworld, mergemaster -p , reboot, mergemaster.
does the same imho.

> 4) reboot

we already done that

> 5) during reboot load shoud check the install buffer and if there is
> something in it then copy it into a real working filesystem. 
> 
> This way we will abvoid nonmtaching executables and kernel at any
> given time.
> 
> What do you think?
> 

My opinion is clear, i'll stick with the current way freebsd handles new 
installations, they work for me, and they never failed on me.

-- 

Kind regards,

Remko Lodder
Elvandar.org/DSINet.org
www.mostly-harmless.nl A Dutch community for helping newcomers on the 
hackerscene



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