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Date:      Mon, 8 Jan 2024 00:00:19 -0800
From:      Mark Millard <marklmi@yahoo.com>
To:        Philip Paeps <philip@freebsd.org>, "clusteradm@freebsd.org" <clusteradm@FreeBSD.org>
Cc:        Dan Langille <dan@langille.org>, FreeBSD Hackers <freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: list of valid ABI combinations
Message-ID:  <41A815DF-8F94-4B00-AEDF-D5E7456A0914@yahoo.com>
In-Reply-To: <C65DA713-09FF-4548-8292-D659B9DE5B58@freebsd.org>
References:  <BB2A3B4D-3AED-42BA-8FD2-B245176C6BB4@freebsd.org> <B1BA45B2-7463-458A-A059-4F0FC17D6119@yahoo.com> <C65DA713-09FF-4548-8292-D659B9DE5B58@freebsd.org>

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On Jan 1, 2024, at 21:45, Philip Paeps <philip@freebsd.org> wrote:

> On 2024-01-02 12:38:47 (+0800), Mark Millard wrote:
>> [FYI: My internet access is limited to a cellphone for some number of =
days.]

I'm back to having my normal internet access.

>>> On Jan 1, 2024, at 19:26, Philip Paeps <philip@freebsd.org> wrote:
>>>=20
>>> =EF=BB=BFOn 2023-12-07 23:03:33 (+0800), Mark Millard wrote:
>>>> . . .
>>>>=20
>>>> There might be issues at times with =
https://pkg.freebsd.org/index.html not
>>>> being in sync. As far as I can tell, that page is manually =
maintained.
>>>=20
>>> clusteradm updates that page to match what we're actually =
distributing.  If it doesn't reflect reality, that's a bug, and we'd =
like to know please. :-)
>>=20
>> Does that include the =E2=80=9Conly ??? Is updated=E2=80=9D sorts of =
notes?
>=20
> Yes.  Please let clusteradm know if the notes don't appear to reflect =
reality.
>=20
> clusteradm maintains the pkgsync infrastructure, which includes the =
index page on the mirrors.  pkgmgr is responsible for scheduling the =
builds.  (And ports committers are responsible for making sure packages =
are even buildable).
>=20
>> For example, FreeBSD:13:armv6 Latest dates back to 2021-Jan-25 but =
there is no note about quarterly only. Various FreeBSD:15:* do not have =
notes about Latest only, despite having no quarterly at all. Some other =
cases have notable but shorter differences in the Latest vs. Quarterly =
time frames, suggesting only one is being updated but no fixed =
difference is definitive for that status.
>=20
> The pkgsync infrastructure doesn't really care how often packages are =
updated.  If memory serves, we first added a "quarterly only" note when =
the thunderxX generation of aarch64 builders broke with distressing =
regularity.  The ampereX builders are much more reliable.
>=20
> I think the current situation for armv6 is "updated irregularly".  =
PowerPC is in the same boat as aarch64 in the ThunderX era: when the =
hardware works, packages are updated.
>=20
> . . .
> Philip
>=20
> --=20
> Philip Paeps
> Senior Reality Engineer
> Alternative Enterprises

Using https://dev.freshports.org/ports-mgmt/pkg looking for
versions involved that are prior to 1.20.* at this point
(or being "-") but having also a 1.20.* involved (or both
being "-"), hovering in order to see dates when available
. . .


Not-reported / misreported on https://pkg.freebsd.org/ :

FreeBSD:13:armv6 latest 1.16.2 (2021-01-25) vs. quarterly 1.19.2 =
(2023-09-05)
So only quarterly is updated (and not regularly?).

FreeBSD:14:armv6 latest 1.19.0 (2023-01-15) vs. quarterly -
So only latest is/was updated (and not regularly).

FreeBSD:14:powerpc64 latest - vs. quarterly -
So neither latest nor quarterly is updated.

FreeBSD:15:aarch64 latest 1.20.9 (2023-11-25) vs. quarterly -
So only latest is updated.

FreeBSD:15:amd64 latest 1.20.9 (2023-11-25) vs. quarterly -
So only latest is updated.

FreeBSD:15:armv7 latest 1.20.9 (2023-11-25) vs. quarterly -
So only latest is updated.

FreeBSD:15:powerpc latest - vs. quarterly -
So neither latest nor quarterly is updated.

FreeBSD:15:powerpc64 latest - vs. quarterly -
So neither latest nor quarterly is updated.

FreeBSD:15:powerpc64le latest 1.20.9 (2023-11-25) vs. quarterly -
So only latest is updated.



=3D=3D=3D
Mark Millard
marklmi at yahoo.com




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