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Date:      Wed, 22 Dec 2004 22:53:46 -0800
From:      "Pedro F. Giffuni" <giffunip@asme.org>
To:        "Poul-Henning Kamp" <phk@phk.freebsd.dk>, freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.org
Cc:        samy@kerneled.org
Subject:   Re: The recent TIOCREMOTE removal
Message-ID:  <41CA6B7A.5040500@asme.org>

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Hi;

I was trying to find out what went wrong with x11-toolkits/xview (and 
derived applications) and I found this thread in -current. XView is 
using termios (as it should) but the TIO_REMOTE removal indeed broke 
xview on Sat Jul  3 10:12:32 UTC 2004.

Patches welcome.

    Pedro.
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In message <29087.62.3.32.33.1089889099.squirrel@www.kerneled.org>, 
samy@kerneled.org writes:
 >The changes committed with revision 1.127 of tty_pty.c and the appropriate
 >changes to the ttycom.h file remove the TIOCREMOTE ioctl. The commit
 >message was as follows:
 >   "It was added 22 years ago for emacs to use, but emacs gave up on it
 >    it 17 years ago."
 >
 >Ignoring the fact that many operating systems have TIOCREMOTE implemented
 >(meaning, FreeBSD provides a nice new portability issue for now and the
 >unknowing future), several ports are *already* broken due to this.

I'm only aware of two ?  And I'm currently investigating them.

 >This ioctl is widely implemented, and even though not a fad of any
 >sort, it is used where it should be. The functionality it provides is
 >of use. I think it would be feasible if someone was to roll-back the
 >both sys/ttycom.h and kern/tty_pty.c

Please provide better evidence of current usage.

-- 
Poul-Henning Kamp       | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20
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