Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 13:41:36 +0100 From: Joris Verschoor <j.verschoor@nefli.nl> To: Ian G <iang@iang.org> Cc: java@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FW: Sun revokes FreeBSD license for Java Message-ID: <41E27800.3030800@nefli.nl> In-Reply-To: <41E27513.9030909@iang.org> References: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0501071006420.16858-100000@matrix.gatewaynet.com> <41DE4504.5040300@ebs.gr> <2569.216.220.59.169.1105114005.squirrel@216.220.59.169> <41E247F2.2070605@nefli.nl> <20050110102730.GA31285@mongers.org> <41E25A39.9040506@nefli.nl> <41E27513.9030909@iang.org>
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Ian G wrote: > Joris Verschoor wrote: > >> We've done some tests, and everything works, but the build process >> takes ages and updates are slow. > > > > Same here. > >> + 5.0 is not ready, but we won't be doing 5.0 stuff yet, although >> we'd love to use generics etc. > > > > Just FYI, you don't need to wait for a 5.0 release to > use generics. Generics as I understand them are > a compile time feature, and the current shipped > compilers can do the work. There is some magic > trick you can employ to get it enabled. True, but if you're using a 5.0 compiler, it will use StringBuilder and other things 1.4 does not have, so although the bytecode is compatible, 1.4.2 does not have the right libraries / methods :( > > I don't know specifically how it is done, but someone > in our shop slipped it into the compile phase in the > summer of 2002 and we have been using it on one > significant project ever since (on FreeBSD as well). > (If you're interested I'll chase up how it was done. > It's not a publishable technique, SUN again do not > permit it to be published.) I'd be nice, but I won't be using any non-standard stuff.. > > I'd say that doing so was a mixed bag; one problem > I saw was that the code couldn't then be compiled > in anyone else's shop. Also, once used extensively, Exactly my problem > they do result in hard to read code, the pollution > aspect is not inconsiderable. > > iang >
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