Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2005 23:02:10 -0600 From: Nikolas Britton <freebsd@nbritton.org> To: Erich Dollansky <oceanare@pacific.net.sg> Cc: kris@obsecurity.org Subject: Re: The only worthwhile logo-related comments so far.... Message-ID: <420EDF52.1090408@nbritton.org> In-Reply-To: <420ED112.80401@pacific.net.sg> References: <20050213004204.GA91920@xor.obsecurity.org> <20050213021055.69766.qmail@web53901.mail.yahoo.com> <20050213022605.GA24426@xor.obsecurity.org> <420ED112.80401@pacific.net.sg>
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Erich Dollansky wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Kris Kennaway wrote:
>
>> On Sat, Feb 12, 2005 at 06:10:55PM -0800, stheg olloydson wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Core being Core will do what they think is best, and they have every
>>> right to. That's not my point. My point is the discussion took place in
>>> secret. What I am suggesting is that when certain discussions take
>>> place that they be publicly readable.
>>
>>
>>
>> Again, FreeBSD has never worked that way, but if you think it should
>> then you should raise the suggestion with core.
>>
> Could this be the real reason for the "acceptance" problem?
>
> In the same moment, this is also the reason for its strengths. A small
> number of people "controls" FreeBSD giving it a direction they think
> is best.
Also remember that the community (committers) voted them into "office"
to represent and make decisions for us.
"These bylaws were approved by a vote of active committers on August 28,
2000.
* Active committers have made a commit to the tree in the last 12
months.
* Core consists of 9 elected active committers.
* Core elections are held every 2 years, first time September 2000.
* Core members and committers may be ejected by a 2/3 vote of core.
* If the size of core falls below 7, an early election is held.
* A petition of 1/3 of active committers can trigger an early election.
* All elections will be run as follows:
o Core appoints and announces someone to run the election.
o 1 week to tally active committers wishing to run for core.
o 4 weeks for the actual vote
o 1 week to tally and post the results.
o Each active committer may vote once in support of up to nine
nominees.
o New core team becomes effective 1 week after the results are
posted.
o Voting ties decided by unambiguously elected new core members.
* These rules can be changed by a 2/3 majority of committers if at
least 50% of active committers cast their vote."
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Democracy, 1b:
A government in which the supreme power is vested in the people and
exercised by them directly or indirectly through a system of
representation usually involving periodically held free elections.
-Merriam-Webster Dictionary of Law
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