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Date:      Thu, 15 Sep 2005 09:10:11 -0300
From:      Antonio Carlos Venancio Junior <antonio@php.net>
To:        Roman Neuhauser <neuhauser@sigpipe.cz>
Cc:        freebsd-ports-bugs@FreeBSD.org, Pav Lucistnik <pav@FreeBSD.org>, bug-followup@FreeBSD.org, Thierry Thomas <thierry@FreeBSD.org>
Subject:   Re: ports/86098: [PATCH] devel/pear-PEAR/Makefile.common: allow use by foreign packages
Message-ID:  <432964A3.9010207@php.net>
In-Reply-To: <20050914224412.GJ19945@isis.sigpipe.cz>
References:  <200509141920.j8EJKAos071104@freefall.freebsd.org> <432892A8.20705@php.net> <20050914212901.GI19945@isis.sigpipe.cz> <4328A112.1040007@php.net> <20050914224412.GJ19945@isis.sigpipe.cz>

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Roman,

Roman Neuhauser wrote:
> # antonio@php.net / 2005-09-14 19:15:46 -0300:
> 
>>Roman Neuhauser wrote:
>>
>>># antonio@php.net / 2005-09-14 18:14:16 -0300:
>>>
>>>
>>>>	SimpleTest isn't a PEAR package and I don't think it's a good idea 
>>>>	have "alien" packages using Makefile.common.
>>>
>>>   Why?
>>
>>	Because it's not part of the PEAR PHP Framework.
> 
> 
>     Is there a *technical* reason?

	No. It's a semantical reason.

> 
>>The author should follow the formal proposal process 
>>(http://pear.php.net/manual/en/newmaint.proposal.php) to have his 
>>package added to the framework.
> 
> 
>     No, there's just no reason. That's like saying that people shouldn't
>     create packages for use with pkg_add unless the ports are in FreeBSD
>     proper. pear.php.net supports alien packages, see the bottom of
>     http://pear.php.net/packages.php
> 
> 
>>	Try to have a look at devel/beautifyphp.
> 
>  
>     Anything particular to look for?
> 
> 
>>>>Besides that, this port should not install files inside
>>>>/usr/local/share/pear ...
>>>
>>>
>>>   Ok, where does pear(1) normally put e. g. Horde when you install it
>>>   using their package.xml files?
>>
>>	The Horde port installs its required PEAR packages via RUN_DEPENDS. 
> 
> 
>     Ignore ports for a while. Go to http://pear.php.net/channels/,
>     follow the link to http://pear.horde.org/, and install Horde_VFS
>     using the procedure described there, which is:
> 
>     pear install http://pear.horde.org/Horde_VFS-0.0.1.tgz
> 
>     Where will it be installed (on FreeBSD, with PHP / pear(1) from ports)?
> 
> 
>>When you install that packages using pear(1) directly it would place 
>>them inside the php_dir (defaults to /usr/lib/php).
> 
> 
>     Well, it's /usr/local/lib/php/pear on this box (php4-pear-4.3.11_1),
>     which means ports-installed pear puts packages in a directory that's
>     not in include_path, and that smells like a bug, but...

	Yes and that's not a bug. There's a message telling you to add that dir 
to your PHP include path when you install PEAR via ports [1].
	If you follow the docs/INSTALL [2] (3.3 Additional PEAR Modules) file 
you will see that required PEAR packages are installed using a remote 
package. That's exactly what the Horde port does.
	When you are using a port you have to install the files following the 
FreeBSD directory standards [3]. That's why PEAR is installed inside 
${PREFIX}/share/pear.
	Keep in mind that you will have to chosse between pear-* ports 
structure or the PEAR CLI.

[1] 
http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/ports/lang/php4/pkg-message.pear?rev=1.1&content-type=text/x-cvsweb-markup
[2] http://www.horde.org/horde/docs/?f=INSTALL.html#quick-install
[3] http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/porters-handbook/

-- 
Cya

Antonio
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