Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2005 07:15:44 -0700 From: Micah <micahjon@ywave.com> To: martinko <martinkov@pobox.sk> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: file name case issue on fat32 (Was: Re: Sharing data files on a dual-boot machine ...) Message-ID: <43395410.3010606@ywave.com> In-Reply-To: <43394783.3020608@pobox.sk> References: <433852A8.10900@gish.demon.nl> <20050926225220.33c51d39@localhost> <43392786.8060102@pobox.sk> <b7052e1e050927043921e2c975@mail.gmail.com> <43393578.7080109@pobox.sk> <43393B24.30506@dial.pipex.com> <43394783.3020608@pobox.sk>
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martinko wrote: > Alex Zbyslaw wrote: > >> martinko wrote: >> >>> Dmitry Mityugov wrote: >>> >>>> On 9/27/05, martinko <martinkov@pobox.sk> wrote: >>>> ... >>>> >>>>> hello, >>>>> >>>>> when i mount a fat32 partition some files have different case (see >>>>> below) then in windows. how come ?? >>>>> >>>>> e.g.: >>>>> >>>>> $ ll >>>>> -rwxr-x--- 1 root wheel 734 Mar 1 2005 a.txt >>>>> -rwxr-x--- 1 root wheel 649 Mar 16 2003 A.txt~ >>>>> -rwxr-x--- 1 root wheel 1110 Mar 27 2003 b.txt >>>>> -rwxr-x--- 1 root wheel 2980 Jun 6 23:46 c.txt >>>>> -rwxr-x--- 1 root wheel 2475 Mar 1 2005 C.txt~ >>>>> -rwxr-x--- 1 root wheel 2563 Jun 10 12:49 d.txt >>>>> -rwxr-x--- 1 root wheel 2561 Jun 10 12:42 D.txt~ >>>>> -rwxr-x--- 1 root wheel 1015 Jun 7 00:25 e.txt >>>>> -rwxr-x--- 1 root wheel 681 Mar 16 2003 E.txt~ >>>>> -rwxr-x--- 1 root wheel 602 Mar 16 2003 f.txt >>>>> -rwxr-x--- 1 root wheel 421 Mar 16 2003 g.txt >>>>> >>>>> in windows all the files above have first letter in uppercase, that is >>>>> "A.txt" for instance. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> sorry if i didn't make myself clear. -- ALL the file names above >>> should have their first letter, and only the first letter, in upper >>> case. that's how they were named in windows. but as you can see >>> above, freebsd does not show them properly as some of them are shown >>> in lowercase (e.g. "a.txt" instead of "A.txt"). >>> >>> why?? >> >> >> >> Because FAT32 is a case-insensitive file system. Don't confuse how >> Windows explorer shows you the file name with how the file name is >> actually stored on the file system. >> >> --Alex >> > > ok. unfortunately i forgot most of my knowledge from the old days of > ms-dos but what i can say even without it is this -- it's not about > windows explorer only. i can see the correct file names in all > applications (under windows of course), i believe. and if windows knows > whether there should be an "A" or "a" then why freebsd cannot? > > martin > > ps: and, btw, how freebsd knows there's a capital A in "A.txt~" ? > because it's stored on the filesystem in that way, i guess. being > case-insensitive doesn't (necessarily) mean a FS doesn't keep a case, > imho. The reason is as follows: a.txt is an 8.3 filename and is stored on fat32 in the old dos format. a.txt~ is NOT an 8.3 filename and is stored on fat32 in the extended long filename format. Case information is not stored in 8.3's file names. They're always the same case, but I can't remember now if they're stored as upper or lower case. Extended long filenames do store case information, even though windows ignores the case (as was pointed out earlier). FreeBSD is displaying 8.3 names as lowercase probably to mimic the tendency of unix filenames to be lowercase. Windows displays 8.3 names as upper case probably to mimic dos. Later, Micah
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