Date: Wed, 08 Feb 2006 00:59:15 +1100 From: Norberto Meijome <freebsd@meijome.net> To: Hans Nieser <h.nieser@xs4all.nl> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, FreeBSD Prospect <mailings.freebsd@o0l0o.org> Subject: Re: FreeBSD Ports vs. Gentoo Portage (a matter of concept) Message-ID: <43E8A7B3.3090707@meijome.net> In-Reply-To: <43E88C64.40007@xs4all.nl> References: <200602071149.31772.mailings.freebsd@o0l0o.org> <43E88C64.40007@xs4all.nl>
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Hans Nieser wrote: > FreeBSD Prospect wrote: >> Hi, >> >> Reading a lot about FreeBSD recently made me really curious. I know, >> that the founder of Gentoo (the well known GNU/Linux >> meta-distribution, which is also based on compiling everything from >> source) was using FreeBSD for some time, before continuing creating >> Gentoo, what's why portage (the Gentoo software management system) is >> generally based on FreeBSD's ports. > > [.. comparison of ports/portage features ..] > > I've been running Gentoo on my desktop computer for a few months and > FreeBSD on my laptop / server machines. I've been using linux since '95 and freebsd since '98 (more heavily (98% of boxen) since 02)...and I have to say that after using it in production environment, RHE is quite painful to go back to (rpms too limiting,etc,etc) *NOT* trying to flame, just stating my POV .I have to say that Gentoo is definitely an improvement on all that, and I use it in my PVR box (since linux has better support for the hardware :-( ) > What I am especially fond of in > portage is the USE-flags and the way you can specify then globally and > individually for each package and how you can get a nice, short overview > of which USE-flags a package uses and which of them are enabled with > "emerge -pv port". And also how you can find their descriptions without > having to dig through Makefiles (although that's becoming less > intimidating for me now that I have been using FreeBSD for half a year > or so). you can use pkgtools.conf and the port* tools, you can define variables based on regular expressions (i.e., I have * => [ WITHOUT_IPV6=true] , so no port* enables IPV6. Works quite well. Again, once you have a version of the port that works well for you, just make a package from your installed files and keep a copy of that ;-) *built with portinstall / portupgrade , NOT via the (cd /usr/ports/[category]/[portdir]/make process... make uses /etc/make.conf...but this method definitively lacks the granularity of pkgtools.conf. B
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