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Date:      Mon, 19 Jun 2000 15:02:17 +0200
From:      Poul-Henning Kamp <phk@critter.freebsd.dk>
To:        Dag-Erling Smorgrav <des@flood.ping.uio.no>
Cc:        Dan Moschuk <dan@FreeBSD.ORG>, "Jeroen C. van Gelderen" <jeroen@vangelderen.org>, Mark Murray <mark@grondar.za>, arch@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: (2nd iteration) New /dev/(random|null|zero) - review, please 
Message-ID:  <44443.961419737@critter.freebsd.dk>
In-Reply-To: Your message of "19 Jun 2000 14:34:50 %2B0200." <xzpwvjlu9w5.fsf@flood.ping.uio.no> 

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In message <xzpwvjlu9w5.fsf@flood.ping.uio.no>, Dag-Erling Smorgrav writes:
>Dan Moschuk <dan@FreeBSD.ORG> writes:
>> I have a driver for the i82802 chipset (Intel Thermal Noise RNG) that
>> needs to be newbus-ified before committing.  Anyone that can help me
>> with this, it would be appreciated.
>
>The idea of built-in hardware RNGs bothers me a little. How can the
>manufacturer guarantee that all units are perfectly identical and
>indistinguishable? Is it conceivable that a hardware RNG might leave
>(be it by accident or by design) some kind of fingerprint in its
>output that might be detectable if you know what to look for? Reminds
>me of Sherlock Holmes comparing typewritten documents to see if they
>were produced on the same typewriter.

And just because you went out and bought your RNG separately, what
difference would it make ?  If an RNG has a fingerprint, you may
be identified by it, no matter where you bought it or how.

The trick is to not use too many of your bits too fast.

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Poul-Henning Kamp       | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20
phk@FreeBSD.ORG         | TCP/IP since RFC 956
FreeBSD coreteam member | BSD since 4.3-tahoe    
Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence.


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