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Date:      Tue, 19 Apr 2016 17:43:19 -0400
From:      Lowell Gilbert <freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org>
To:        "Valeri Galtsev" <galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu>
Cc:        "Steve O'Hara-Smith" <steve@sohara.org>,  freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Raid 1+0
Message-ID:  <44a8kpcm14.fsf@be-well.ilk.org>
In-Reply-To: <40267.128.135.52.6.1461098148.squirrel@cosmo.uchicago.edu> (Valeri Galtsev's message of "Tue, 19 Apr 2016 15:35:48 -0500 (CDT)")
References:  <571533F4.8040406@bananmonarki.se> <57153E6B.6090200@gmail.com> <20160418210257.GB86917@neutralgood.org> <64031.128.135.52.6.1461017122.squirrel@cosmo.uchicago.edu> <20160419153824.7b679129f82a3cd0b18b9740@sohara.org> <40267.128.135.52.6.1461098148.squirrel@cosmo.uchicago.edu>

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"Valeri Galtsev" <galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu> writes:

> On Tue, April 19, 2016 9:38 am, Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote:
>> On Mon, 18 Apr 2016 17:05:22 -0500 (CDT)
>> "Valeri Galtsev" <galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu> wrote:
>>
>>> Not correct. First of all, in most of the cases, failure of each of the
>>> drives are independent events
>>
>> 	If only that were so. When the drives are as near identical as
>> manufacturing can make them and have had very similar histories they
>> can be expected to have very similar wear and be similarly close to
>> failure at all times, which makes it likely that the load imposed by
>> one failing will push another over.
>
> Sigh. You need suggest some physics that will make one drive affect
> another (aged or not aged doesn't matter for me). Then you will have me in
> your team.

Correlation is not causation.

It's not a big stretch to imagine that two nearly identical mechanical
devices, operated in nearly identical conditions, might wear out in a
nearly identical way at about the same time. There is no need for one
drive to affect the other.

A fair number of people believe that this in fact occurs. I've looked
for evidence on the subject, and I haven't found anything (beyond
anecdotes) for or against the possibility.



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