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Date:      Thu, 27 Sep 2007 20:47:11 -0700
From:      Garrett Cooper <youshi10@u.washington.edu>
To:        "Sam Fourman Jr." <sfourman@gmail.com>
Cc:        freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, Remko Lodder <remko@elvandar.org>, Alastair Hogge <agh@tpg.com.au>, Giulio Ferro <auryn@zirakzigil.org>, Kjell Tore Ullavik <ktullavik@gmail.com>
Subject:   Re: Nvidia amd64
Message-ID:  <46FC793F.5010906@u.washington.edu>
In-Reply-To: <11167f520709271945p7453b254gf60d10ed231f3ea4@mail.gmail.com>
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Sam Fourman Jr. wrote:
> On 9/27/07, Kjell Tore Ullavik <ktullavik@gmail.com> wrote:
>   
>> Remko Lodder wrote:
>>     
>>> On Thu, Sep 27, 2007 at 03:07:42PM +0200, Giulio Ferro wrote:
>>>
>>>       
>>>>  Sam Fourman Jr. wrote:
>>>>
>>>>         
>>>>>>> There is no driver.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>               
>>>>>> I sort of surmised that already...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So, we are still years away from seeing a working nvidia driver,
>>>>>> by the look of it...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>             
>>>>> I guess what I am confused about, is there someone actively working on
>>>>> the Nvidia requests, or does a capable individual need to take the
>>>>> lead on this project?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>           
>>>>  And that's exactly what I'd very much like to know...
>>>>  _______________________________________________
>>>>
>>>>         
>>> >From what I know and what I can see; there is nobody actively working in
>>> this region to get the things fixed to get this far. Ofcourse like rsync.net
>>> you are free to sponsor these items if they are really important to you,
>>> without that, do notice that people do this in their own free time, which
>>> could either take some time before it's there, or might not be interesting
>>> enough to work on currently (because of other things at work, private life
>>> other code etc).
>>>
>>> It's not a matter of a capable individual taking the lead, it's a matter
>>> of having someone capable enough working on this for some time, which can
>>> be achieved by sponsoring that capable person for example.
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>> remko
>>>
>>>       
>> Maybe the FreeBSD project could provide an official site for bounties?
>> Some things might have more interest among users than developers,
>> and an easy way to create and donate to bounties for everyone to see may
>> make it less of a barrier for people to put their money where their
>> mouth is.
>>
>> Ubuntu seem to have something going, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bounties
>>
>>
>>
>>     
> if there was a bounty system for FreeBSD I would pledge $100 USD for
> work that would help amd64 nvidia... heck I would even settle for
> someone that wants to take lead and setup a paypal collection.
>
> Sam Fourman Jr.
>   

    What needs to be done is FreeBSD users need to be asked, 
specifically, if they have interest in an amd64 capable nvidia-driver 
being released. If so, then a donation page should be setup and 
coordinated either through the FreeBSD Foundation (desired) or a 
trusted, private individual who will distribute the funds to the parties 
implementing the feature.
    Personally I think that this should apply to many things, not just 
nvidia-driver. If that was done, maybe volunteer work (I know, less 
volunteer, more work) would move along faster. The same thing occurs in 
the business world but instead of small bounties it's usually a large 
sum of money for a set of features developed and supported over a long 
period of time. At least that's what Linux would make me think...
    Just my two cents..
-Garrett



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