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Date:      Wed, 10 Apr 2002 07:11:40 +0200
From:      Poul-Henning Kamp <phk@critter.freebsd.dk>
To:        "Greg 'groggy' Lehey" <grog@FreeBSD.org>
Cc:        John Baldwin <jhb@FreeBSD.org>, cvs-committers@FreeBSD.org, cvs-all@FreeBSD.org
Subject:   Re: Feature removal without replacement (was: cvs commit: src/sys/alpha/alpha machdep.c src/sys/conf NOTES) 
Message-ID:  <4868.1018415500@critter.freebsd.dk>
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 10 Apr 2002 14:35:19 %2B0930." <20020410143519.B22430@wantadilla.lemis.com> 

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In message <20020410143519.B22430@wantadilla.lemis.com>, "Greg 'groggy' Lehey" 
writes:
>On Wednesday, 10 April 2002 at  6:59:53 +0200, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote:
>> In message <20020410095141.M9535@wantadilla.lemis.com>, "Greg 'groggy' Lehey" w
>> rites:
>>
>>> Why do we need to cut Uesrconfig out until there's some replacement?
>>
>> Suggest you revisit the cvs log for a blow by blow account.
>
>Which one?  And why can't you summarize.

The one you appearantly missed two years ago when userconfig disappeared.

I could, except this happened nearly two years ago, so I would have
expected that you had noticed by now:

] src/sys/i386/conf/GENERIC revision 1.261
] date: 2000/06/22 06:01:02;  author: peter;  state: Exp;  lines: +2 -1
] Add SOFTUPDATES to GENERIC  (BOOTMFS has this filtered out)
] ----------------------------
] revision 1.260
] date: 2000/06/13 22:28:46;  author: peter;  state: Exp;  lines: +40 -46
] Borrow phk's axe and apply the next stage of config(8)'s evolution.
] 
] Use Warner Losh's "hint" driver to decode ascii strings to fill the
] resource table at boot time.
] 
] config(8) no longer generates an ioconf.c table - ie: the configuration
] no longer has to be compiled into the kernel.  You can reconfigure your
] isa devices with the likes of this at loader(8) time:
]   set hint.ed.0.port=0x320
] 
] userconfig will be rewritten to use this style interface one day and will
] move to /boot/userconfig.4th or something like that.
] 
] [...]

>>> Specifically, what do people do when they're installing the system
>>> from CD on an old ISA machine?  It looks like they're stuck.
>>
>> They uses the loader and their hints file.
>
>Is that documented?  This looks very much like hand-washing to me.

And your email sounds like somebody who is a little too jumpy about
my commits and who can't be bothered to check his own facts...

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