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Date:      Sat, 30 Jul 2022 16:54:52 -0700
From:      David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com>
To:        questions@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: OT: Strange interaction between NIC, SSD and motherboard
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On 7/29/22 17:10, Aryeh Friedman wrote:

 >>> I have a MSI Motherboard (DMI info output below) and have two
 >>> identical SSD's (one [sata0] with FreeBSD installed and Windows
 >>> on the other [sata1]and then I bought a D-Link DGE-560T NIC
 >>> (wired 10/100/1000) and soon I connected the NIC the machine
 >>> could not see the FreeBSD drive at all (the BIOS that is) even
 >>> after swapping cables and SATA connectors.  As soon as I took
 >>> the NIC out everything returned completely to normal.

 >>> ada0: <SATA SSD SBFM61.3> ACS-4 ATA SATA 3.x device

 >>> Base Board Information
 >>>    Manufacturer: Micro-Star International Co., Ltd
 >>>    Product Name: B450 TOMAHAWK (MS-7C02)


On Sat, Jul 30, 2022 at 5:18 PM Ralf Mardorf wrote:

 >> maybe the power supply is too weak to power the NIC and the two
 >> SSDs or even the NIC and the FreeBSD SSD, without the Windows SSD.
 >> The FreeBSD SSD might consume more mA or is somehow more prone to
 >> unstable power or connected to another power cable harness, than
 >> the Windows SSD. If so, it could explain that swapping SATA cables
 >> and SATA ports doesn't change anything. It's not my best guess,
 >> it's the only guess ;). Just a shot in the dark!


On 7/30/22 14:38, Aryeh Friedman wrote:

 > Almost certainly not the case since one of the tests I did was to
 > completely disconnect (including power cables) the windows SSD and it
 > still didn't see the FreeBSD one regardless of which cable and SATA
 > connector I used


STFW motherboard

https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/B450-TOMAHAWK


STFW NIC

https://us.dlink.com/en/products/dge-560t-gigabit-desktop-pci-express-adapter


STFW SSD

"SBFM61.3" appears to be firmware for various brands.  What is the make 
and model of the SSD's?  Please provide URL.


What version and edition of Windows do you have?


What version and release of FreeBSD do you have?


Have you tested the power supply with a hardware power supply tester?


Have you disconnected and re-seated the power cables connected to the 
motherboard?


Have you run memtest86+?


Are you confident in your SATA cables?


If you disconnect everything from the motherboard except for the power 
supply, CPU/ heatsink/ fan, memory modules, Windows SSD, keyboard, 
mouse, and monitor, and connect the Windows SSD to each motherboard SATA 
port in turn, does CMOS Setup see the SSD for every port?  Does Windows 
boot for every port?  What are the results if you repeat these steps 
using the FreeBSD SSD?


If you connect the Windows SSD to the first SATA port and connect the 
NIC to each motherboard PCIe slot in turn, does CMOS setup see the NIC 
for every slot?  Does Windows boot for every slot?  Does the NIC work 
for every slot?  What are the results if you repeat these steps using 
the FreeBSD SSD?


David



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