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Date:      Tue, 23 Dec 2008 12:50:24 -0500
From:      Joe Marcus Clarke <marcus@freebsd.org>
To:        Wilko Bulte <wb@freebie.xs4all.nl>
Cc:        Rink Springer <rink@freebsd.org>, current@freebsd.org, Alfred Perlstein <alfred@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: HEADSUP usb2 (usb4bsd) to become default in 2 weeks.
Message-ID:  <495124E0.4090108@freebsd.org>
In-Reply-To: <20081223163739.GF42864@freebie.xs4all.nl>
References:  <20081222214010.GA18389@elvis.mu.org>	<20081223162336.GA77652@rink.nu> <20081223163739.GF42864@freebie.xs4all.nl>

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Wilko Bulte wrote:
> Quoting Rink Springer, who wrote on Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 05:23:36PM +0100 ..
>> Hi people,
>>
>> On Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 01:40:10PM -0800, Alfred Perlstein wrote:
>>> We're going to usher in the New Year with a new usb stack.
>>>
>>> Now is the time to test, test, test.
>>>
>>> It is also the time to point out anything missing from usb2 that
>>> is in usb1.
>>>
>>> In two weeks, on Jan 3rd I will switch the GENERIC kernel to use
>>> usb2.
>>>
>>> The old usb code will remain in case there is any fallout.
>>>
>>> Depending on how this trial goes we will hopefully move to the new
>>> stack entirely within a few weeks after bug reports start dying
>>> down.
>> For what it's worth, I think this is *way* too early to be even
>> considering this; there is still massive fundamental work being
>> performed on the new stack (which reminds me that I really should get
>> back to my permission patches soonish), but that is not the only
>> issue.
> 
> Guys.. is there any reason why this needs to be rushed in over the Christmas
> break?  Getting it in the tree, fine.  But making USB2 the default so
> quickly does not appear to be proper engineering procedure.
> 
> The days that CURRENT was broken for long periods is not something the
> project wants to get back to.  The discussions sofar do not make me believe
> this will be a smooth transition, it seems it will need testing and fixing for 
> a reasonable (considerable?) period.

Agreed.  For desktop users, sysutils/hal is currently broken with usb2.
 It's on my todo list to fix, but I may not have time to do it in the
next two weeks.  I know this may seem minor considering other issues,
but people used to automounting USB media in their desktop won't think so.

Joe

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Joe Marcus Clarke
FreeBSD GNOME Team	::	gnome@FreeBSD.org
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