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Date:      Sat, 11 Apr 2009 14:42:47 -0400
From:      Chuck Robey <chuckr@telenix.org>
To:        =?UTF-8?B?RGFnLUVybGluZyBTbcO4cmdyYXY=?= <des@des.no>
Cc:        Lars Engels <lars.engels@0x20.net>, Vincent Hoffman <vince@unsane.co.uk>, freebsd-chat@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: do we have support for the Beagle Board?
Message-ID:  <49E0E4A7.6020406@telenix.org>
In-Reply-To: <86r600uxrr.fsf@ds4.des.no>
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Dag-Erling Smørgrav wrote:
> Duncan Barclay <dmlb@dmlb.org> writes:
>> The DSP is not a Cortex, it's the 64x series of TI DSP. The Cortex is
>> Arm's latest CPU. Arm instruction sets are labeled as ArmV5, V6, V7
>> etc. Then, Arm develop CPU cores that implement these:
>>    ArmV5   ARM9xx such as an Arm926 processor
>>    ArmV6   ARM1176 CPUs
>>    ArmV7   ARM Cortex-A8, Cortex-A9s etc.

I put down the cash for the Pandora, which (according to what I read) has the
OMAP3530, which means it has the Cortex-A8 in it, so I'm after that ARMv7A.
Your putting that info in an email was a good thing to do for the entire
community, but one thing which kinda worries me for it's future implications is
that all of the info about the Pandoras seems to come in little dribs and drabs
like above.  There doesn't seem to be any big spec sheet.

Just means that getting all the specs seems to be a bit more difficult than I
think it should be.

>> These core's are then licensed to chip manufacturers for them to use.

I love the fact that they're got that top quality 3D code for the TI 320 that's
embedded, but it says that all the code is available via NDA.  Sigh, I thought
that all of that idiocy would be left behind for a project that advertised as
open-source derived.  Guess I'm still being innocent.

> 
> So why didn't they just use a TI DaVinci or DaVinci HD?  It's an ARMv5
> core and a 64x DSP on a single chip, with something like 2 MB of shared
> SRAM.

According to what I thought I read, the arm7 has changes from the arm5 it's
derived from.  Supposed to me 2-3 times more code-efficient?  I hope I learn
more before I get my toy.

Do you have any idea what the FP environment is?  softfp?

> 
> DES

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