Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 17:14:39 -0400 From: PJ <af.gourmet@videotron.ca> To: Paul Schmehl <pschmehl_lists@tx.rr.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: how to boot or access problem file system Message-ID: <4A720D3F.3090109@videotron.ca> In-Reply-To: <F0A212F04E9450E3BC071541@utd65257.utdallas.edu> References: <4A71DB2A.4040401@videotron.ca> <h4ss0d$k7e$1@ger.gmane.org> <4A71F86A.6010603@videotron.ca> <F0A212F04E9450E3BC071541@utd65257.utdallas.edu>
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Paul Schmehl wrote: > --On Thursday, July 30, 2009 14:45:46 -0500 PJ > <af.gourmet@videotron.ca> wrote: >> >> Mike, >> I am not particularly interested in becoming a guru on FreeBSD. I just >> want to be able to use it productively... by that I do not mean make >> money, but get something achieved in the way of programming stuff for my >> own website etc. Having to "go back to school" to understand all the >> stuff about FBSD is a bit overkill. >> The real problem is that the instructions for upgrading and updating >> trip all over themselves and confuse the shit out of most of us who are >> not FBSD experts. Funny, that there are so many posts and wueries on >> google to fix things on FreeBSD. I found one that was very clear and the >> upgrade worked... >> yet there is something wrong with the upgrade since I cannot get X to >> recognize a puny little mouse. > > You need to run both dbus and hal if you want Xorg to detect your > mouse and keyboard. That requires you to add two lines to > /etc/rc.conf; hald_enable=YES and dbus_enable=YES. > >> And consequently I have no idea if >> Firefox is working or if flashplayer is working or acroread9 or anything >> for that matter. > > If you're doing website development and you need to have flash working > you need to find another OS. Flash on FreeBSD is unreliable at best. > Move to Ubuntu or CentOS or Gentoo or some other Linux flavor that can > run Flash natively. > >> And there are no explanations that are readily evident >> on what to use, when, how and where to use the different programs line >> the linux emulation... > > No matter what you use, there is going to be a learning curve. I've > just started using Vista Enterprise, and it drives me nuts. Things > aren't where I'm used to them being, and I can't find what I used to > know was there. And I was editing the registry in Windows 3.1 when > many people didn't even know there was a registry. > > All OSes take time to learn, some more than others. FreeBSD is on the > steeper side of the learning curve table, so maybe you shouldn't > invest the time. Life is too short to be constantly frustrated. >> >> I do appreciate the help you are offering as well as all the other guys >> who take time out to help us. >> It sounds, from what you are telling me, like it may be possible to do >> something with my problem computer... will try. > > If you are willing to invest the time, FreeBSD can be a great OS to > use. But nobody but you can run your box, and no amount of help can > overcome an unwillingness to take the time to learn. That's not an > indictment of you. Your priorities are not others' priorities. But > don't keep banging your head against the FreeBSD wall if you just want > to get an OS up and running and using Flash. > > Hell, buy a Mac. Then you'll have the best of both worlds. No way. But isn't it strange that it used to be pretty simple to upgrade and update. But recently, I notice that communication between the developers and users (or is it the manual page writers) are getting far away from the realities of user/operational needs. Oh, what's the sense of beating a dead horse, mechanics will never be writers... let's not kid ourselves. -- Hervé Kempf: "Pour sauver la planète, sortez du capitalisme." ------------------------------------------------------------- Phil Jourdan --- pj@ptahhotep.com http://www.ptahhotep.com http://www.chiccantine.com/andypantry.php
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