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Date:      Tue, 09 Nov 2010 13:17:37 +0100
From:      Dominic Fandrey <kamikaze@bsdforen.de>
To:        freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org, FTP <ftp@halifax.rwth-aachen.de>
Subject:   Re: /pub/FreeBSD or /FreeBSD
Message-ID:  <4CD93BE1.6070705@bsdforen.de>
In-Reply-To: <20101109095110.GG2741@daedalus.informatik.rwth-aachen.de>
References:  <4CD91428.5090002@bsdforen.de> <20101109095110.GG2741@daedalus.informatik.rwth-aachen.de>

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On 09/11/2010 10:51, Carsten Otto wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 09, 2010 at 10:28:08AM +0100, Dominic Fandrey wrote:
>> Is there an official policy for the mirror layout?
> 
> We (ftp.halifax.rwth-aachen.de) serve /pub/FreeBSD although we do not
> use this layout for the other projects. I guess we did this because of
> some official policy.

I think I might have made a mistake here. I checked again and my
estimate for half the servers was a) grossly exaggerated and b)
the issue is more present over http.

Those don't work:
http://ftp.de.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/
http://ftp3.de.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/
http://ftp4.de.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/
http://ftp6.de.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ (no HTTP at all)

These work:
ftp://ftp.de.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/
ftp://ftp3.de.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/
ftp://ftp6.de.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/

So, I have three distinct problems with half the German mirrors,
two offer /pub/FreeBSD only through FTP, but not HTTP.

One (ftp4.de) does not offer /pub/FreeBSD at all.

And one does not offer HTTP access, so if I switched back to FTP,
3 quarters of my problem would disappear and I'd have 8 working
mirrors instead of 5 out of 9.

So I should probably justify my use of HTTP:
- Less latency (important for small downloads)
  - 8-stable/All/automounter-1.4.3.tbz with the same connection:
    HTTP: 0.20s, 0.20s, 0.20s
    FTP: 0.39s, 0.62s, 0.39s, 0.39s (I'd throw the 0.62s away as a glitch)
  - It needs 77 packages to install firefox, 70 of these are below 1.5m,
    which is a small file by broadband standards, i.e. for 90% of
    the packages latency is an important parameter
- Only one connection per file instead of two (a server can run
  out of ports twice as fast with FTP), unless I am very mistaken about
  how HTTP and FTP work

Regards

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