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Date:      Wed, 10 Nov 2010 17:02:34 -0500
From:      Joe Marcus Clarke <marcus@freebsd.org>
To:        Harald Servat <redcrash@gmail.com>
Cc:        gnome@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Empathy (MSN) unable to connect
Message-ID:  <4CDB167A.7070700@freebsd.org>
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On 11/10/10 4:47 PM, Harald Servat wrote:
> 
> 
> 2010/11/10 Joe Marcus Clarke <marcus@freebsd.org
> <mailto:marcus@freebsd.org>>
> 
>     On 11/9/10 4:41 PM, Harald Servat wrote:
>     > 2010/11/9 Harald Servat <redcrash@gmail.com
>     <mailto:redcrash@gmail.com>>
>     >
>     >>
>     >>
>     >> 2010/11/9 Joe Marcus Clarke <marcus@freebsd.org
>     <mailto:marcus@freebsd.org>>
>     >>
>     >> On 11/8/10 8:12 AM, Harald Servat wrote:
>     >>>> 2010/11/8 Denise H. G. <darcsis@gmail.com
>     <mailto:darcsis@gmail.com>>
>     >>>>
>     >>>>>
>     >>>>> On 2010/11/08 at 19:47, Harald Servat <redcrash@gmail.com
>     <mailto:redcrash@gmail.com>> wrote:
>     >>>>>>
>     >>>>>> Hello,
>     >>>>>>   I find that empathy (latest version available in packages)
>     is not
>     >>> able
>     >>>>> to
>     >>>>>> connect to the MSN network. It reports "Unable to connect".
>     Another
>     >>> user
>     >>>>> and
>     >>>>>> myself have opened a thread about the topic in the freebsd
>     forums but
>     >>> I
>     >>>>>> don't know if you take a look at it, this is the reason of
>     this emai.
>     >>>>>>
>     >>>>>>   Have you find the same issues in empathy? Do you have any
>     idea on
>     >>> how
>     >>>>> to
>     >>>>>> fix them?
>     >>>>>>
>     >>>>>> Thank you very much.
>     >>>>>> ................
>     >>>>>
>     >>>>> Hello,
>     >>>>>
>     >>>>>  Same problem here. I've googled the problem and found it
>     perhaps is
>     >>>>>  not FreeBSD specific. Many empathy users on Linux platforms have
>     >>>>>  reported similar problems. And my solution is to use
>     net-im/emesene
>     >>>>>  for MSN messaging ... though it may not be a perfect one...
>     >>>>>
>     >>>>>  It seems this has something to do Empathy dealing with MSN
>     protocol.
>     >>>>>  It uses a Python library to do the job (the same one Pidgin
>     uses for
>     >>>>>  MSN) but unfortunately the library does not agree with
>     empathy in one
>     >>>>>  way or another...
>     >>>>>
>     >>>>> --
>     >>>>> If you have watched a TV series only once, and you watch
>     >>>>> it again, it will be a rerun of the same episode.
>     >>>>>
>     >>>>
>     >>>> You're right, there are other platforms that show the same
>     problem. I
>     >>> tried
>     >>>> the solutions they report, but none worked on my installation,
>     that's
>     >>> what
>     >>>> make me think that this could be freebsd specific.
>     >>>
>     >>> Can you try with papyon 0.5.2 (recently updated).  This fixed a
>     rather
>     >>> nasty bug.  I'm getting much further along in MSN connection now.
>     >>>
>     >>> Joe
>     >>>
>     >>>>
>     >>>> It looks like we'll have to wait for the next release of empathy.
>     >>> Meanwhile,
>     >>>> I'll take a look at emesene.
>     >>>>
>     >>>> Thank you!
>     >>>>
>     >>>
>     >>>
>     >>> --
>     >>> Joe Marcus Clarke
>     >>> FreeBSD GNOME Team      ::      gnome@FreeBSD.org
>     >>> FreeNode / #freebsd-gnome
>     >>> http://www.FreeBSD.org/gnome
>     >>>
>     >>
>     >>
>     >> Ok, I'll give a try when I'm in my FreeBSD box.
>     >>
>     >> Thank you!
>     >>
>     >> --
>     >> _________________________________________________________________
>     >>  Fry: You can see how I lived before I met you.
>     >>  Bender: You lived before you met me?!
>     >>  Fry: Yeah, lots of people did.
>     >>  Bender: Really?!
>     >>
>     >>
>     > Joe,
>     >
>     >   I'm seeing the same behavior even using papyon 0.5.2 (I've just
>     upgraded
>     > this port).
> 
>     Make sure all telepathy processes have been killed.  Then, from empathy,
>     to go Help > Debug, and look at the MSN messages.  What errors do
>     you get?
> 
> 
> Joe,
> 
>   from a cold boot, empathy was unable to log into my msn account.
> Looking at Help > Debug I can find two debug types "Empathy" and
> "misson-control". The former shows me a gray windows with the "The
> selected connection manager does not support the remote debugging
> extension". The latter, shows me two messages, both of them are the same
> (maybe because I tried to connect twice, one at the start of empathy and
> once when I hit the "reload" button):
> 
> request_connection_cb: RequestConnection failed: Message did not receive
> a reply (timeout by message bus)
> 
>   Does it help? Can I provide something else to debug it?

This sounds like a telepathy-butterfly problem.  Try reinstalling that port.

Joe

-- 
Joe Marcus Clarke
FreeBSD GNOME Team	::	gnome@FreeBSD.org
FreeNode / #freebsd-gnome
http://www.FreeBSD.org/gnome



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